Pick Up tippers with original buck / tub

[armchairarborist]

any useful load carrying vehicle vehicle wouldn't have most of the load area befind the rear axle, add to that a chipper putting its load on towball as well and them gay front wheels will be waving in the air, a few logs in the hopper might balance it a bit though.

[tommer9]

Not sure it would make any difference....... its a combo of the awful colour and those curvy lines all over it that ruin it for me. Well, that and its useless weight carrying ability and worse than useless towing ability Its a works vehicle FFS not a bleedin fashion statement. At least thats what its being presented as.....

[treequip]

The geometry of most pickups, particularly the extended cab variants is pretty poor for load distribution. Quite easy to overload the back axle without going over the maximum authorised mass.

 

Most standard trucks get used for chainsaws, or in some cases are kept entirely for domestic use. Putting a tipper on is inviting an overload and asking for plod trouble.

 

On the plus side it would be an advantage to have a tipper which is "clearly commercial" when HMCE want a chunk of domestic mileage.

[hooch]

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[Dan@GBTE]

I agree that is a neat idea......I see the mountain tops (i think they are called that) on the likes of navaras- hard load covers that are waterproof etc and lockable, and think they are great but a bit limited. What you have outlined looks excellent to me- a lockable hard cover for the load area, which when needed unfolds to chip sides, which when filled the vehicle would be on its way home so the need for locked away gear would be lessened.....brilliant.

 

Not sure it would make any difference....... its a combo of the awful colour and those curvy lines all over it that ruin it for me. Well, that and its useless weight carrying ability and worse than useless towing ability Its a works vehicle FFS not a bleedin fashion statement. At least thats what its being presented as.....

 

Tommer9, I’m glad with the assistance of Shreks Wee Brother that we’ve found something you do like. I know what your saying about a works vehicle but no end of mums drive them round here, what do they need a 4x4 pick up other then to drop the kids off at school when the mountains of Fenland look like the Alps once a decade or so. These vehicles seem to be portrayed just as much as a fashion accessory as a work vehicle, if they wasn’t Mitsubishi would knock the Warrior, Animal and Triton on the head with their chrome running boards, mirrors and handles, 17" wheel upgrade etc, and just sell the 4work range, but they don’t, the fashion side sells. We might have to agree to disagree on this one :v)

 

A rather pointless exercise really, just vanity and settling for something that will ultimately be less practical/robust than putting a proper tipper bed on.

 

B101uk, we know we can’t produce one single product that will suit everybody but I think from our initial enquires we see that there would be some demand for the original butt to tip. It’s just up to us to make it work now. We’re not saying the after markets are terrible and we do fully appreciate the practical side of them and would love to offer this as an option too so if you don’t like the first idea maybe you’ll like the second idea in our portfolio and it would compliment our current product range nicely, to be honest the aftermarket/retro fit option would just be a smaller version of our 3.5T+ tipper body range. As can be seen from this thread some people are with us on the fact that the aftermarket bodies don’t always add to the appearance, maybe it’s a niche market, but it’s a market all the same.

 

i built a tipping body for my 2001 hilux, found that multi stage telescopic ram was a better option than a scissor type lift but getting clearance for the tipping gear above the diesel tank was tight. as the body lifts the bottom of the cylinder moves in a small arc and you had to leave clearance for this.

 

Hi Garth, we personally go with the telescopic ram and have experience with supplying and fitting hundreds be it underfloor, front end or three way or then further and on cranes, beavertails and taillifts. We’d work closely with our suppliers to develop a system to work amongst cross members, fuel tanks etc.

 

personally i think that it sounds like a great idea for someone who needs the use of a 4x4 tipper every now and then . personally i would not considder buying a jap 4x4 where the standard butt tips purly because the wheel arches get in the way thus making tipping awkward , reducing the cappacity of the tipper , you still could not fit a pallet in the back and should you laod the butt up with jolgs and want to tip them off im pretty sure the wheel arches would get stoved in pretty quickly .

 

so how would you alter the fuel filler pipe as they are attacvhed to the but and what would be your answer to converting the rear tailgate ??

 

Combined tree services. The tippers wouldn’t raise “super fast” so hopefully logs etc would not have enough momentum to start doing the damage to the inside of the buck. Once we have a working model we’d be more then happy to test this to see what happens and let you know the outcome, even if you’re not interest in possibly purchasing one in the future I’m sure other who were would like to know what happens.

 

Tailgate wise we’d look at tipping over the tailgate rather then through the tailgate as the standard option. We’ve heard from dealers that they standard tailgates are pretty strong and can take a bit of abuse. Filler pipes we’d look at moving to another convenient location.

 

I have to say I actually prefer the look of a well made ali body, I think it shows a bit of pofeshonalisms... Plus a proper drop side unit with maybe a set of box lockers fixed under is always going to be a much more practical vehicle, and practicality always wins for me... someone was correct above, vanity me thinks:biggrin:

 

Personally I'd love a fixed bed drop side with a rear mounted swing or small hiab lift, I've chatted to my local snot welder, but at the prices you've been talking on here I'll send you an email and see what you can come up with.

 

I've been told that becuse the butt on my truck is so rare (fibre glass stepside - chevy 1500ck) it'd be worth maybe 2k on flebay, so I'm well on my way to affording something a lot more useful!

 

Bigreddog, thanks for your reply.

 

I've got a 2006 old shape L200. I would be interested but worried about:

 

Weight? How much could you legally get in the back of a double cab after this? 350KG which is about 1m3 of chip?

 

High sides, something 'standard' looking that would allow you to chip into the back.

 

Not worth doing if you have the bed 2" higher than the cab, would look worse than ali sheet tipper i think, speak to some 4x4 specialists, doing a 'body lift' on just the cab may even it out (just some spacers?)

 

C

 

Czhey, Thanks for your reply. I’ll have a word with Mitsubishi and the other manufacturers tomorrow which I hope will be forthcoming with information. Mitsubish I don’t think are too bad and I think we have some contact details for them from previous project on the L200’s. The Mitsubish spec sheets don’t give too much away on the axle capacities. Payload wise, on the current vehicle the payload is just over 1T total, although, I can’t see if this is a wet or dry weight and allows for anything else, e.g driver etc. I’d like to think you’ll see 2 and a bit times that 350kg though!

 

The cab spacers we’ve already had a bit of a look at and this shouldn’t be a too labour intensive task if required, but hopefully it wont be. Time will tell!

 

I think if you want it for work then it shouldn't matter if you can tell its a tipper or not. But puttign the original rear body back on for re sale and keeping the tipper for your next vehicle would be a good service.

 

I found this pic of L200 king cab tipper. Looks ok to me.

 

 

Rupe, I know where you stand on this one :v)

Ok, would you be happy to tell me, if we go down the route of this one as an option too what do you want; all alloy body (floor, long runners, cross bearers), ladder gantry, double swung tail gate, mill finish? Or would you be after something different, steel, paintwork etc? Pressed sides like the 3.5T Mitsubish Fuso Canter on our home page or alloy hollow plank like the vehicles on our dropside page?

 

Everyone one else who'd like this, what are your thoughts?

 

any useful load carrying vehicle vehicle wouldn't have most of the load area befind the rear axle, add to that a chipper putting its load on towball as well and them gay front wheels will be waving in the air, a few logs in the hopper might balance it a bit though.

 

As said, I'll have a look at weights and payloads. Thanks for your reply.

 

The geometry of most pickups, particularly the extended cab variants is pretty poor for load distribution. Quite easy to overload the back axle without going over the maximum authorised mass.

 

Most standard trucks get used for chainsaws, or in some cases are kept entirely for domestic use. Putting a tipper on is inviting an overload and asking for plod trouble.

 

On the plus side it would be an advantage to have a tipper which is "clearly commercial" when HMCE want a chunk of domestic mileage.

 

Hi Treequip, thanks too for your reply.

 

Thanks again for all the replies everyone.

 

It's all appreciated.

 

Dan

[Dan@GBTE]

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Hi Hooch, Thanks for that, It's nice to see that. Although at current exchange rate that's not cheap!

[scotspine1]

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very good, though did notice on the flashplayer clip the guy dumping the topsoil - soil got stuck behind the wheel arches

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited February 7, 2010 by scotspine1

[Mozza]

Having read threw this, I do like the idea of it, As said if the price is right im sure you'll have a que a mile long mate!!

 

It'll be very interesting to hear/see what you can come up with. Keep us updated!

[John Shutler]

id definately be interested as long as the conversion didnt limit carrying capacity(weight) to much

[Rupe]

Well I just put my tuppence in, but in reality I'm not likely to ever want such thing and if I did I'd just buy a tipping L200 or similar and customise it myself. But in answer to your question I'd go for the hollow plank version as I assume its lighter than the press alu?