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[Hodge]

It's fuel card services I use. Liz is very helpful.

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[treevolution]

6 minutes ago, Hodge said:

Cars or cards?

Fuel card. Need to check before posting. 

 

 

[Stool master]

17 hours ago, Hodge said:

Good luck! I'm paying £.1.43 with my fuel card...get a fuel card!!

Guessing that's ex vat, £1.716 vat inclusive.

[Hodge]

Guessing that's ex vat, £1.716 vat inclusive.

Yes it's ex VAT but I'm VAT reg so that's what I pay.

[trigger_andy]

Yes it's ex VAT but I'm VAT reg so that's what I pay.

So about 10pm litre off then. [emoji849]

[Hodge]

So about 10pm litre off then. [emoji849]

Every little helps...

[trigger_andy]

Just now, Hodge said:

 

Every little helps...

 

Sure does, but sounds far more impressive when you state £1.43 instead of the regular 10p savings with a fuel card. 

[Hodge]

Sure does, but sounds far more impressive when you state £1.43 instead of the regular 10p savings with a fuel card. 

Really[emoji23][emoji23] I'm getting pulled up about that?? It's what I pay so I'm happy...

[Stere]

So is a fuel card only suppose to be for a company vechicle used for work journeys?

 

Must be alot of use to pop to the shops etc?

[Guest Gimlet]

On 30/05/2022 at 21:11, Macpherson said:

 

Well there have been plenty of folk warning about government overreach during the plandemic and of course nearly everyone has had their terrified little ears shut.. some would say this is just a taste of what's to come as power grabbers around the world pass unchallenged laws to restrict peoples freedoms.. but hey ho.. who cares as their letting us go for a pint again👎

The government is going to hand over authority for setting future pandemic management to the WHO (jointly controlled by the Chinese Communist Party and the Bill Gates Foundation). There was a petition set up demanding the government not cede sovereignty to a supranational institution without a referendum, which I signed. Had the government reply a couple of day ago, basically saying they're going ahead anyway and drafting the law as we speak. 

So in future, when a new strain of the cold virus escapes, it will be the WHO that sets the terms of pandemic response and lockdowns in the UK. 

They won't stop there of course. We are well on the way to world government, run of course, by the very people responsible to most of the evils in the world. Won't be long before some similar supranational politburo is setting fuel prices and rationing fuel, or dictating what sort of vehicle we may drive. It'll happen, unless someone somewhere starts killing politicians and plutocrats.  

 

Here is the reply I got from the government about the petition. Read it and be horrified. And very angry. Our new health secretaries will be Bill Gates and Xi Jinping:

 

Dear Jim,

The Government has responded to the petition you signed – “Do not sign any WHO Pandemic Treaty unless it is approved via public referendum”.

Government responded:

To protect lives, the economy and future generations from future pandemics, the UK government supports a new legally-binding instrument to strengthen pandemic prevention, preparedness and response.

COVID-19 has demonstrated that no-one is safe until we are all safe, and that effective global cooperation is needed to better protect the UK and other countries around the world from the detrimental health, social and economic impacts of pandemics and other health threats. The UK supports a new international legally-binding instrument as part of a cooperative and comprehensive approach to pandemic prevention, preparedness and response.

At a World Health Assembly Special Session in late 2021, the 194 countries of the World Health Organization (WHO) agreed to launch a process to draft and negotiate a new instrument, through the auspices of WHO, to strengthen pandemic prevention, preparedness and response. The negotiating process will be led by member states, including the UK.

The instrument aims to improve how the world prevents, better prepares for, and responds to future disease outbreaks of pandemic potential at national, regional and global level. It would complement the existing international instruments which the UK has already agreed, such as the International Health Regulations. It would promote greater collective action and accountability.

A treaty is an international agreement concluded between States or with international organisations in written form and governed by international law. The UK is party to a large number of multilateral treaties, including many through the United Nations (UN) and its specialised agencies such as the WHO. These instruments reflect obligations states have agreed to enter into to further common goals.

The current target date for agreeing the text of the new instrument is at the World Health Assembly in May 2024. Over the next two years the UK aims to work towards building a consensus on how the global community can better prevent, prepare for, and respond to future pandemics and will actively shape, develop and negotiate the text. The new instrument would only be adopted by the World Health Assembly if the text achieves a two-thirds vote of the Health Assembly (Article 19 of the WHO Constitution). The Health Assembly is made up of representatives of WHO Member States.

Once adopted, the instrument would only become binding on the UK if and when the UK accepts (ratifies) it in accordance with its constitutional process. In the UK this requires the treaty to be laid before Parliament for a period of 21 sitting days before the Government can ratify it on behalf of the UK.

The Government always carefully considers whether domestic legislation will be required to implement the UK’s international obligations when negotiating a treaty. Not every treaty requires implementing legislation and it is too early to say if that would apply here. However, in all circumstances, the UK’s ability to exercise its sovereignty would remain unchanged and the UK would remain in control of any future domestic decisions about national restrictions or other measures.

If changes to UK law were considered necessary or appropriate to reflect obligations under the treaty, proposals for domestic legislation would go through the usual Parliamentary process and the UK would not ratify the treaty until domestic measures, agreed by Parliament, were in place.

This process of ratification allows scrutiny by elected representatives of both the treaty and any appropriate domestic legislation in accordance with the UK’s constitutional arrangements. The Government does not consider a referendum is necessary, appropriate or in keeping with precedent for such an agreement.

Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office

Edited June 1, 2022 by Gimlet