Russia Invades ukraine

[openspaceman]

2 minutes ago, Mesterh said:

Are they really trying to help him though? They want him to surrender a good chunk of his land to Russia and give 500 billion in minerals plus the rights to loads of other stuff to the US in payment. I can see the Trump Plaza Kyiz video waiting in the wings.

 

 

Is this surprising given the price america exacted for winning the war in europe, not to mention owning Japan.

[Mesterh]

Its what the US do, they make lots of money from war and lots more from the aftermath of war. Someone in the US will be drafting up the plans to rebuild a trillion dollars of infrastructure in Gaza and Ukraine as we speak.

 

 

[Big J]

If it weren't for a shared language, the US and Britain wouldn't be nearly so close. This has been said many times.

This latest exhibition of abhorent political showmanship from Trump and Vance hammers home how alien American culture is. To invite the leader of a country at the receiving end of an invasion to the White House and then repeatedly demand overtures of gratitude beggars belief. Trump and Vance truly have no idea what Zelensky and his countrymen have been enduring for not just three years, but since 2014. They look at the situation not as "how might we help our allies fight our adversary, which benefits us both" but rather as "how can we best extract money from this situation. Ukraine be damned"

It's hard not to feel like we're in 1938, but with the Axis being Russia and Maga.

[Spindrift]

[Steven P]

15 hours ago, Rich Rule said:

I thought the opposite.

 

Zelensky came across as a disrespectful person.  
 

Show a bit of humility to the ones trying to help you.

 

To be honest he didn't actually get a chance to speak, shouted down by the pair of them. Remember who is the guest in whose house here - if I had a guest over to just so me and Mrs could shout at them (that is how the press conference appeared) then I'd be asking who has the respect? Vance was pre-loaded with the question, came from nowhere, with the intention of humiliation.

[Mark J]

[Rich Rule]

2 hours ago, Steven P said:

 

To be honest he didn't actually get a chance to speak, shouted down by the pair of them. Remember who is the guest in whose house here - if I had a guest over to just so me and Mrs could shout at them (that is how the press conference appeared) then I'd be asking who has the respect? Vance was pre-loaded with the question, came from nowhere, with the intention of humiliation.

Did  you watch the whole interview or did you just watch edited clips?

 

 

[Steven P]

It was a good chunk but edited.