Woodburner...

[john87]

2 minutes ago, openspaceman said:

The corollary of this is the batch burning masonry stoves which instead of being regularly loaded with logs during the day are loaded once with a few tens of kg of dry wood and then burned flat out. All the heat is used to heat the masonry surrounds as the flue gases travel through a labyrinth of brickwork. The fire goes out and is sealed and the  brickwork continues to heat the house until the next day when it is reloaded and fired.

Never heard of one of them.. What are they like then??

 

john..

[Stubby]

17 minutes ago, openspaceman said:

I suppose because it was a snug fit there was no room to pour insulation around the liner and hence the warming of the loft.

 

 

No , not quite how it is . There is no air gap between the 7.5" clay liner and the chimney wall . Its all pugged in . Also there is not much in the way of " incomplete combustion " once the stove is up to temp . You can tell that by the way the flames " dance" above  the logs with out seeming to touch them . This is the gases being burnt off .

Edited December 14, 2021 by Stubby

[openspaceman]

11 minutes ago, Stubby said:

No , not quite how it is . There is no air gap between the 7.5" clay liner and the chimney wall . Its all pugged in . Also there is not much in the way of " incomplete combustion " once the stove is up to temp . You can tell that by the way the flames " dance" above  the logs with out seeming to touch them . This is the gases being burnt off .

Stop being contrary @Stubby; if there is no air gap then there is no room for insulation and the metal liner touches the clay tiles and conducts heat to them.

 

I know you burn your logs well but even if you see no smoke particulates and carbon monoxide are being produced unless you have a catalytic stove.

 

Norbert Senf of the masonry heaters association in america reckons even if you see no smoke there will be 4000 parts per million and his stoves are amongst the cleanest.

[Stubby]

21 minutes ago, openspaceman said:

Stop being contrary @Stubby; if there is no air gap then there is no room for insulation and the metal liner touches the clay tiles and conducts heat to them.

 

I know you burn your logs well but even if you see no smoke particulates and carbon monoxide are being produced unless you have a catalytic stove.

 

Norbert Senf of the masonry heaters association in america reckons even if you see no smoke there will be 4000 parts per million and his stoves are amongst the cleanest.

Fcuk ! I do my best ! 😁

[Billhook]

Here are a few photos back in 1983 

My big brother standing in front of it who sadly died of non Covid problems last year.

Plus dear old Beatrix the Airedale who died in 1998 aged 16, so lying by a wood fire most of her Winter evenings did not seem to do her much harm

 

The third photo shows the chimney brickwork in the upstairs bedroom , the fifth is the first fire with obviously no air control and the last two are as it us now with a pair of mesh gates to shut for safety overnight or if I leave the room

[Billhook]

Forgot to show the damper control which is an old brass window winder

the metal damper plate goes across the whole width of the throat which is four inches wide and three feet long

When shut it completely shuts off the chimney from the room and is infinitely adjustable until vertical 

When vertical it acts as a shield to prevent any down draught or smoke coming down the throat as the smoke would hit the smoke shelf behind and be taken up with the hot gases

Initially  I had a soot door behind the smoke shelf so I could sweep the chimney into the garage.

But marriage meant the garage was converted into a room and I connected the Aduro stove to the old soot door .

The two fires seem to run together or individually without any problems sharing the same chimney 

 

The second photo is one of the adjustable vents , one on either side, each fed by a four inch pipe set in the concrete floor and fed from outside.

[Billhook]

Last one I promise!

 

This is the Aduro, very efficient with plenty of glass, but the Rumford is the better experience, sitting a gazing at the dancing flames!

You can see my rather crude flue going to the old soot door 

[Billhook]

Well , last still photo!

Here are the videos 
The moon is bright and it has turned very cold outside, not in here though

The temperature on the Rumford is about 500 degrees and it has only been lit for about ten minutes and the Aarrow Stratford is about half that and has been lit all day but it is heating the water, on the other hand I would have expected the glass on the door to be a bit hotter

[Stubby]

7 minutes ago, Billhook said:

Well , last still photo!

Here are the videos 
The moon is bright and it has turned very cold outside, not in here though

The temperature on the Rumford is about 500 degrees and it has only been lit for about ten minutes and the Aarrow Stratford is about half that and has been lit all day but it is heating the water, on the other hand I would have expected the glass on the door to be a bit hotter

Can't see anything .

[topchippyles]

14 minutes ago, Stubby said:

Can't see anything .

Put your specs on musch 👍