Selling in 2.5m lengths

[ESS]

5 hours ago, arboriculturist said:

You are far better off developing relationships with millers, as when the new regs. come into force  Firewood merchants will not be able to take that from you unless you can prove it came from a sustainable source - I think you will find it very hard to do that.

Those retailers who have researched the regulations thoroughly will know what I mean.

Change is on the wind and its it is soon to hit land.

Non FSC timber goes into sawmills surely ? as long as there is a felling licence in place no problem.

How difficult would it be for a haulier/merchant to provide paperwork for it to have come from a site that is under a felling licence, and who is going to police that?

I am not familiar with the new regs , but traceability is not new to the forest industry ?

[Stubby]

6 hours ago, arboriculturist said:

 

 

Look at lead shot ban for wildfowling, General licences, Arb. qualifications and Insurance, Loler, Puwer, H&S, etc. etc. etc.

Every one went to steel (or bismuth if you are rich ) for shooting below the mean high water mark .

[arboriculturist]

4 hours ago, swinny said:

Come on Arb, be an optimist in some way. Bad year to be pessimistic.

 

If it all has to go to biomass in the end then so be it. I take it your packing in with logs? 

 

 

 

I am just annoyed that we are all being railroaded to follow another raft of regulations and we just have to tow the line. I actually think i will benefit as I can meet all the criteria, albeit with investment and effort. More annoyed it will kill off a lot of good small rural businesses. 

[arboriculturist]

33 minutes ago, Stubby said:

Every one went to steel (or bismuth if you are rich ) for shooting below the mean high water mark .

I'm not a fan of steel, leads to more wounded even 2 shot sizes larger.

[arboriculturist]

4 hours ago, ESS said:

Non FSC timber goes into sawmills surely ? as long as there is a felling licence in place no problem.

How difficult would it be for a haulier/merchant to provide paperwork for it to have come from a site that is under a felling licence, and who is going to police that?

I am not familiar with the new regs , but traceability is not new to the forest industry ?

The regs for Woodsure go far further than just a felling licence. Needs to be management plans, and true sustainability, they even look at soil management and flora and fauna.

[Stubby]

2 minutes ago, arboriculturist said:

I'm not a fan of steel, leads to more wounded even 2 shot sizes larger.

Agreed .

[openspaceman]

4 hours ago, ESS said:

How difficult would it be for a haulier/merchant to provide paperwork for it to have come from a site that is under a felling licence, and who is going to police that?

This was often the case for timber merchants in the past, the delivery ticket would often come back with a source woodland different from where I harvested it. Little did I know then about syndicated woodlands and nominating schedule D woodlands.

[ESS]

8 minutes ago, openspaceman said:

This was often the case for timber merchants in the past, the delivery ticket would often come back with a source woodland different from where I harvested it. Little did I know then about syndicated woodlands and nominating schedule D woodlands.

Yes, and it was used a lot when pulp mills were zoned. Sites further away were paid more for haulage so bit of easy profit for putting a further afield site on delivery notes.

[ESS]

24 minutes ago, arboriculturist said:

The regs for Woodsure go far further than just a felling licence. Needs to be management plans, and true sustainability, they even look at soil management and flora and fauna.

So does it have to go through woodsure ? 

I know nothing about the new regs, however i fail to see how a system that is accepted by the rest of the timber supply chains.i.e felling licence etc could not be considered acceptable by the wood fuel supply chain.

[spuddog0507]

8 hours ago, arboriculturist said:

Look at lead shot ban for wildfowling,

Yes look at it, it was thought of by some prick who has never been near any wildfowl or been wildfowling, been out pigeon shooting on a laid barley field today, we have shot god knows how many shells between us, now this very same land we will be shooting Greys and Pinks over it in the next 3 or 4 wks but by law we should be using steel ?? whats the difference ? there isnt one,