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It’s all about the WANT and if you don’t want it bad enough then you won’t do it and it’s that simple...the Eastern European’s want it more because there circumstances are different from ours as far as state help is concerned and there standard of living and who can blame them from wanting to work hard for a better life,you will find in any walk of life if someone wants it bad enough they will do it.

yes farmers make great deal of money but it’s still hard to find home grown labour so if you can get good reliable people to turn up,crack on then go straight home and not to the pub and get rat arsed and not turn up the following day,not moan about the weather and bringing all there home life problems with them to work and have to leave early every other day I would take that as an employer.But I would still love to be able to give local and home grown labour the jobs if given a choice but it’s not like that anymore.

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4 minutes ago, 5 shires said:

It’s all about the WANT and if you don’t want it bad enough then you won’t do it and it’s that simple...the Eastern European’s want it more because there circumstances are different from ours as far as state help is concerned and there standard of living and who can blame them from wanting to work hard for a better life,you will find in any walk of life if someone wants it bad enough they will do it.

yes farmers make great deal of money but it’s still hard to find home grown labour so if you can get good reliable people to turn up,crack on then go straight home and not to the pub and get rat arsed and not turn up the following day,not moan about the weather and bringing all there home life problems with them to work and have to leave early every other day I would take that as an employer.But I would still love to be able to give local and home grown labour the jobs if given a choice but it’s not like that anymore.

To right but. 

If government was not giving hand out it maybe different no pubs open so they have got to go home, and they maybe glad to get out of the house. 

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I remember as a lad being the sole local 14 year old working on the polo pitches filling in divots. Back then, EE people were only just starting to come over, and often there would be a minibus full of them and also a minibus from the Pompey job centre. The difference was night and day.

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6 hours ago, Mesterh said:

Yes, you do need to and that is the difference.

 

Earning a living/providing for your family comes first, self respect comes second. 

I think you have your priorities mixed up.

 

 

This isn’t about me which you seem to have turned it in to so you do want you need to and I’ll do what I need to,I haven’t said anything about what you should be doing yet you feel you should be telling me.

simply make a comment as the post suggest or don’t get involved and turn it into a dig and get personal as this kind of thing seems to be happening more and more on the this forum lately as is all the bad language which is allowed now which never used to be and  no one gets pulled up for it anymore.

Thats me done.

 

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13 hours ago, Squaredy said:

I don't recall this being a thread about youth.  It is about the lack of ethic of hard physical labour in the UK.  

Ahhh right, thanks for that, it was just that there was reference to youngsters in some of the posts, including your initial one on this thread that triggered me into voicing my opinion . Perhaps that misled me into straying off topic.

 

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