Margaret Thatcher.

[onetruth]

1 hour ago, Vespasian said:

my fav moment of her premiership, the stock exchange jumping when she announced she was on her way out...  Capitalism clapping her into retirement...

Probably because they knew a Labour government would be less likely.

 

"pound shop Churchill" made me laugh.  I wonder how she'd have felt about the comparison.

[onetruth]

51 minutes ago, Mick Dempsey said:

Those of a certain age will remember continual governments being held to ransom by the unions, in particular the miners, she had the balls to sort it out.

She had the balls, and she did the job.  And then, to nobody's benefit, she allowed the communities that had relied on the mines to crumble.  Given the social devastation that has fallen on so many formerly hard-working villages across the country since the pit closures, I think it is wrong to consider the miners as holding the country to ransom: they were desperately fighting for the survival their communities.  They lost, and sure enough the vindictive and negligent government allowed these communities to fall apart.  

 

We probably had to close the mines, we had to moderate the unions, but we didn't have to ruin the communities in the process.  But then again, those northern peasants are going vote Labour anyway, so who cares?  Here's a tax cut...   

[eggsarascal]

7 minutes ago, onetruth said:

She had the balls, and she did the job.  And then, to nobody's benefit, she allowed the communities that had relied on the mines to crumble.  Given the social devastation that has fallen on so many formerly hard-working villages across the country since the pit closures, I think it is wrong to consider the miners as holding the country to ransom: they were desperately fighting for the survival their communities.  They lost, and sure enough the vindictive and negligent government allowed these communities to fall apart.  

 

We probably had to close the mines, we had to moderate the unions, but we didn't have to ruin the communities in the process.  But then again, those northern peasants are going vote Labour anyway, so who cares?  Here's a tax cut...   

Your last sentence should read, 'We probably did need to close some of the mines'.

 

Some were still showing a profit when they were closed. The problem in the area I grew up in was that one of the major sites would pump for a lot of the smaller mines.

[Mark J]

Privatised everything they could, decimated communities for profit (sound familiar?) and then she had a state funeral. Foul creature.

Edited March 12, 2019 by Mark J

[Mark Bolam]

I respect her for her stance on the Falklands, and in breaking the power of the unions, as they had gone too far.

 

But....

 

What she did to the miners, their communities, and heavy industry in general was disgraceful.

 

If a small child misbehaves you tell it off or smack its arse.

You don’t stove its head in with a shovel.

 

Nationalised industries not working?

Get a grip and sort them out then.

Don’t sell them to a bunch of greedy twats who make them worse.

 

No long term view.

It’s as if she hated her own children.

Which she probably did.

[onetruth]

22 minutes ago, Mark Bolam said:

No long term view.

It’s as if she hated her own children.

Which she probably did.

She set her son up with a load of dodgy arms deals.  He tried to start a coup in some African country several years ago but when it went tits up she pulled strings to get him a soft prison sentence.  Kids, eh?  

 

She didn't hate her own children, just didn't care one jot about anyone else's.  Or, at least, those who didn't fit her very peculiar definition of "hard-working".

[Khriss]

Married a millionaire.... Must have helped. Same way marrying the millionaire helped Debbie ? k

[Mick Dempsey]

How did th

4 minutes ago, Khriss said:

Married a millionaire.... Must have helped. Same way marrying the millionaire helped Debbie ? k

Dénis Thatchers entry on wiki. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Thatcher

 

Worth a look.

Edited March 12, 2019 by Mick Dempsey

[Khriss]

Loaded in a word. An I ain't forgiven that 'milk thing neither. I loved that lil bottle of warm milk every day! K

[Mick Dempsey]

9 minutes ago, Khriss said:

Loaded in a word. An I ain't forgiven that 'milk thing neither. I loved that lil bottle of warm milk every day! K

Was he ‘loaded’ when they married?

 

The milk thing is old hat, I’m old enough to have had school milk.

 

It was superfluous by the mid sixties.