Timberwolf shares ‘all the facts’ around Stage V legislation with new campaign

[dan494]

1 hour ago, Big J said:

That's good to know, but considering how inefficient petrols are, that's a day's work with my forwarder. 

 

So 30x £1.20 is £36, versus 20 litres of red diesel which is £13. Almost tripling my daily costs. On my next job, where I reckon I'll be on site for 60 odd days, it'd cost me an extra £1380, plus the hassle of having to go to the petrol station every day. Also, in summer, I tend to stay on site, so 100l of diesel brought with me would last all week. Not possible with petrol.

Are diesels on big machines really that much better at hours per gallon? My chipper is no worse than a diesel 

[dan494]

That's obviously worth the switch. Don't know if it's the same petrol engine though as I went from 35hp diesel Kubota to 37hp petrol and haven't noticed extra fuel use. Plus I use pump fuel as nowhere to store red so the petrol is cheaper, plus the chipper is £2k cheaper than the diesel so makes sense 

[woody paul]

28 minutes ago, dan494 said:

Are diesels on big machines really that much better at hours per gallon? My chipper is no worse than a diesel 

If you can not feed them quick enough big chippers are less economic than any small ones. 

[tim361]

I bought a GM 150p last year. The diesel version didn’t make sense for me. The nearest garage selling red is a 15 minute drive away, and the machine was another £2-3000 more. That pays for a lot of petrol to get to the same point. 

Maybe they don’t make sense for the big guys but for me I probably average a gallon of petrol a day, So the extra £2-3 pounds I’m spending on petrol a day doesn’t effect me. 

[Ty Korrigan]

On 21/12/2018 at 20:41, dan494 said:

That's obviously worth the switch. Don't know if it's the same petrol engine though as I went from 35hp diesel Kubota to 37hp petrol and haven't noticed extra fuel use. Plus I use pump fuel as nowhere to store red so the petrol is cheaper, plus the chipper is £2k cheaper than the diesel so makes sense 

Just to add my pennyworth.

 I've kept a record, from new of hours and fuel bought. 

Chipper is a GM150P 37hp efi

The average fuel consumption is 4.5litres per hour.

Perhaps 1litre above the 33hp turbo deezle Quadchip.

The average cost per day, 1hr chipping, is around €2 more than using white deezle. I can't stock red as I have no yard and operate from a small garage at home. Besides, French red stinks like a sulphurous volcano's fart and I am 100m from a petrol station.

  Stuart

[Ty Korrigan]

4 minutes ago, Big J said:

That's high fuel consumption. 

 

I work my forwarder a bit harder now than when I first got it (just have it at higher revs) and my 44hp turbo diesel uses 2-2.5 litres per hour.

Do you actually log the hours and fuel purchases in a wee black book.

I have paper proof of my expenses.

(Married an accountant)

Globally, I consider it to be small beer.

 Stuart

 

 

[Ty Korrigan]

I'm not fighting a big bearded kraut, not even from behind my armoured keyboard...

You look too much like Krampus...

   Stuart

 

[James 59]

Your stories of your empire amaze and amuse.

your aim to destroy other small businesses is also entertaining.

you are nothing Stuart.

Brittany is not your domain, and never will be.

get from your madness, seek help.

bless you. I understand mental illness 

.all I ask is that we meet and have a chat.

xxxx

[dig-dug-dan]

It doesnt matter how much you save buying a petrol chipper,  you are going to end up paying more for petrol.

One thing thats not been touched on is the reason behind this legislation. Lots of talk of saving the environment, but this will do nothing to help global warming. Its purely about air quality, and that wont improve sith the likes of china and america carrying on the way they are! Its co2 emissions that need to be addressed to combat global warming.

Anyone who has a dpf on their vehicle knows that lots of short journeys will clog them up, meaning you have to drive at 40mph for half an hour to clear them, which the exhaust then spits out in a lump in the environment anyway!

 

[Woodworks]

10 minutes ago, dig-dug-dan said:

It doesnt matter how much you save buying a petrol chipper,  you are going to end up paying more for petrol.

One thing thats not been touched on is the reason behind this legislation. Lots of talk of saving the environment, but this will do nothing to help global warming. Its purely about air quality, and that wont improve sith the likes of china and america carrying on the way they are! Its co2 emissions that need to be addressed to combat global warming.

Anyone who has a dpf on their vehicle knows that lots of short journeys will clog them up, meaning you have to drive at 40mph for half an hour to clear them, which the exhaust then spits out in a lump in the environment anyway!

 

Just a couple of points from the above.

 

Everyone goes on about how dirty China is but it's not surprising as it is such a huge country but per capita, it's very little worse than the UK https://www.ucsusa.org/global-warming/science-and-impacts/science/each-countrys-share-of-co2.html#.XB9a98_7S3I

 

I know I have been on the wrong end of DPF problems but the idea that all the muck gets chucked out the exhaust anyway is a bit misleading. We all know that if you run your stove at low temps it chucks out lots of filthy smoke and if we run them hot our emissions are far lower. My understanding of a DPF is it saves up all the soot and then burns it off very hot. Sounds like a good idea in theory.