Staff woes, getting ready to chuck it all in

[westphalian]

Having listened to rees mogg I feel this country went down the tubes when we got rid of serfdom

[Rough Hewn]

Having listened to rees mogg I feel this country went down the tubes when we got rid of serfdom

Wait til he's pm.
Another dynastic, nepotist, eton, oxbridge, parasitic sucubus for a leader.
Again.
And again.
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[Khriss]

57 minutes ago, westphalian said:

Having listened to rees mogg I feel this country went down the tubes when we got rid of serfdom

It took the Black Death n pubs to sort that one out ! Now we have brexit k

[Gary Prentice]

3 hours ago, richy_B said:

You feel employees are getting it easy. Employee feels like you are making all the money without having to get involved. The grass is always greener...

 

I've had my own contracting business, been a subbie climber, been an employed climber and was until recently managing a contracting business. I don't understand some of the attitudes that exist at all. While I was managing a business I explained the costs of running the business to everyone, the staff knew the prices of jobs and they weren't poorly paid. If they wanted particular equipment to make life easier, I asked that they made a case themselves to show how if would make life easier, safer, improve efficiency etc and if it was valid we'd get it. As particular lads gained experience and could do more, I'd make a case to the owner for wage increases, which were usually agreed. 

 

Because I was timing work for them, the job sheet had a section for them to complete for the time on site - feedback for me that I was somewhere near on my times and not being unrealistic in my expectations (No-one ever filled that in, even after I explained that it wasn't a witch hunt to cause argument or recriminations)

 

The attitude that the business was making all the money still persisted, I didn't know what more could be done.  

[Haironyourchest]

You could move toward mechanisation to eliminate some of the staff. Lose the dead wood and give machines to the remaining good staff to make them more efficient. Pedestrian tracked mini loader to replace, or at least double the efficiency of, one brash dragger, for instance. 

[Arboricultured]

I've had my own contracting business, been a subbie climber, been an employed climber and was until recently managing a contracting business. I don't understand some of the attitudes that exist at all. While I was managing a business I explained the costs of running the business to everyone, the staff knew the prices of jobs and they weren't poorly paid. If they wanted particular equipment to make life easier, I asked that they made a case themselves to show how if would make life easier, safer, improve efficiency etc and if it was valid we'd get it. As particular lads gained experience and could do more, I'd make a case to the owner for wage increases, which were usually agreed. 
 
Because I was timing work for them, the job sheet had a section for them to complete for the time on site - feedback for me that I was somewhere near on my times and not being unrealistic in my expectations (No-one ever filled that in, even after I explained that it wasn't a witch hunt to cause argument or recriminations)
 
The attitude that the business was making all the money still persisted, I didn't know what more could be done.  

I don’t think anything can be done. There are a lot of people who don’t want to accept that, most of the time, to make good money you have to apply yourself, work hard, and in most cases, for a long time. It’s too convenient to blame the fact that they don’t earn well on those that do and have grafted for it. If they were to accept the cold facts they would have to look at their life choices and that can be sobering. Easier to blame the boss and not have to bother with all that difficult fact based stuff.

[Gary Prentice]

14 minutes ago, Arboricultured said:

 

I don’t think anything can be done. There are a lot of people who don’t want to accept that, most of the time, to make good money you have to apply yourself, work hard, and in most cases, for a long time. It’s too convenient to blame the fact that they don’t earn well on those that do and have grafted for it. If they were to accept the cold facts they would have to look at their life choices and that can be sobering. Easier to blame the boss and not have to bother with all that difficult fact based stuff.

 

 

Welcome to arbtalk.  That's a good, if sobering, first post 

[Jonny69]

1 hour ago, Gary Prentice said:

I've had my own contracting business, been a subbie climber, been an employed climber and was until recently managing a contracting business. I don't understand some of the attitudes that exist at all. While I was managing a business I explained the costs of running the business to everyone, the staff knew the prices of jobs and they weren't poorly paid. If they wanted particular equipment to make life easier, I asked that they made a case themselves to show how if would make life easier, safer, improve efficiency etc and if it was valid we'd get it. As particular lads gained experience and could do more, I'd make a case to the owner for wage increases, which were usually agreed. 

 

Because I was timing work for them, the job sheet had a section for them to complete for the time on site - feedback for me that I was somewhere near on my times and not being unrealistic in my expectations (No-one ever filled that in, even after I explained that it wasn't a witch hunt to cause argument or recriminations)

 

The attitude that the business was making all the money still persisted, I didn't know what more could be done.  

How many full time staff do you manage in your current job? 

 

[Gary Prentice]

2 minutes ago, Jonny69 said:

How many full time staff do you manage in your current job? 

 

One, part-time and it's me.   No staff issues at all and it's terrific! 

[eggsarascal]

5 minutes ago, Gary Prentice said:

One, part-time and it's me.   No staff issues at all and it's terrific! 

Are you not working with your BiL now?