choosing a replacement wood burner

[openspaceman]

On 16/09/2018 at 10:32, openspaceman said:

What recommendations for a eco design stove,

I just got sent this:

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6402031/Wood-burning-stoves-emit-six-times-pollution-diesel-truck.html

 

Which is likely to prompt more concerns about wood burning.

 

There are some glaringly bad examples of false attributions for premature deaths but...

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[Woodworks]

7 hours ago, openspaceman said:

I just got sent this:

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6402031/Wood-burning-stoves-emit-six-times-pollution-diesel-truck.html

 

Which is likely to prompt more concerns about wood burning.

 

There are some glaringly bad examples of false attributions for premature deaths but...

No new news in there though. Open fires are dreadful and poor use with wet wood are our biggest problems

[openspaceman]

1 hour ago, Woodworks said:

No new news in there though. Open fires are dreadful and poor use with wet wood are our biggest problems

You're right  but it looks like clean burn technology reduces the particulates  to about a fifth of  a simple box stove made over ten years ago.

 

I'm more concerned about a backlash from the general public and these figures seem to be wrong. The trouble is it's hard to get a handle on what level particulate emissions are from a particular stove because the testing method is so eclectic and  only a figure in milligrams per cubic metre is given when I want to see a figure per kWh produced or per kg of dry wood burned.

 

Also that headline figure of wood producing 38% of the particulates in the atmosphere is trumped up. Firstly it assumes a background level and takes that from the calculation and then it assumes that which is not produced by diesels is produced from woodfires. This then includes woodsmoke produced throughout the year by bonfires, accidental fires as well as open fires.

 

The stoves Industry Alliance say the real contribution by stoves (which presumably includes all the older stoves in use) is 3%.

[difflock]

Better put a cork in them volcano's, stop the wind blowing in the Sahara, ban all wildfires, etc etc etc.

Bloody nature!

Or learn to live off pure bottled Oxygen folks. 

[Rob_the_Sparky]

Just to get people back to the real world for a moment about particulates and cars, exhaust emissions are only part of the picture:

 

"Electric vehicles emit no NO2 but do produce small particle pollution from the wear on brake discs and tyres and by throwing up dust from roads. A recent European commission research paper found that about half of all particulate matter comes from these sources."

From: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/aug/04/fewer-cars-not-electric-cars-beat-air-pollution-says-top-uk-adviser-prof-frank-kelly

 

and anyway particulates are only part of the overall picture.