Am I the only driver who thought vans could do 70?

[aspenarb]

On 06/06/2018 at 19:05, openspaceman said:

I just came home on the bike up the A303 at an indicated 73 (optimistic Honda speedo as I was following some lorries which were probably doing 56 and it showed 60) and was passed by several commercials.

 

A lot of operators have their truck tacho`s calibrated on low profile tyres, once done they fit the full profiles back on which is why some of these trucks are hitting over 65mph. All the paperwork looks correct That snotty old Foden of mine will go off the clock when the limiter goes on the blink.

 

Bob

[twistedhicap]

With today’s technology I believe the camera equipment will read every numberplate and the laser the speed of each then runs the number through a database which will determine the class of vehicle and then cross reference to the recorded speed then wallop your done if your speeding !

It’s simple algorithms I’m guessing and a shed load of data !

[scbk]

Do you still get gatso cameras in England?

 

I got caught in my old van by a gatso on the A9, I was doing 60 on the dot (calibrated speedo) as I had done dozens of times before, without setting the camera off.

Anyway on that night, I was towing a trailer and overtaking an artic. I think the gatsos have sensors to detect speeding HGVs, but then the photos will be manually checked by a person who would've spotted me.

 

The A9 now has average speed cameras, which you can't trust as they will be anpr linked. Same as the mobile camera vans.

[muttley9050]

Woohoo!!!

Ford escort !!!

Van derived car!!!

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Escort van doesn't count as car derived mate. Just named after the car but doesn't use the same Chasis etc. Car derived vans are more like the Astra and fiesta vans which look almost exactly the same as the car version without the back seat.

 

[Treewolf]

14 hours ago, twistedhicap said:

With today’s technology I believe the camera equipment will read every numberplate and the laser the speed of each then runs the number through a database which will determine the class of vehicle and then cross reference to the recorded speed then wallop your done if your speeding !

It’s simple algorithms I’m guessing and a shed load of data !

This is a popular theory but doubtful for several reasons.

 

A Defender (subject to certain exceptions) can legally travel at 'car' speeds by virtue of the fact that it is classified in law as a Dual Purpose Vehicle, however this is not recorded on any central database. So if all vehicles were being scanned it is likely that we Defender owners would be inundated in incorrect speeding tickets, and we're not.

 

It is quite possible that the more recent mobile, ANPR-based, speed trap systems do a PNC check, but the earlier types such s as GATSO, Truvelo, etc, certainly do not.

 

For speed limits, the only light goods vehicles which are not subject to the reduced speed limits are those which fit into the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations' definitions of a Car-Derived Van or a Dual Purpose Vehicle. Vehicles in either of these categories can travel at 'car' limits, but the definitions are precise and quite restrictive (for example not all vans which are derived from cars are actually legally Car-Derived Vans, and vehicles such as a Disco 3 Commercial is too heavy to be a Dual Purpose Vehicle and is therefore subject to lower speed limits than a non-commercial Disco 3).

 

It is a minefield!

[Mark J]

Mine can nearly do 105.

[Rough Hewn]

Escort van doesn't count as car derived mate. Just named after the car but doesn't use the same Chasis etc. Car derived vans are more like the Astra and fiesta vans which look almost exactly the same as the car version without the back seat. 

Even if it says car derived van on the v5?
London emissions zone classify's it as a car.
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