competent splicer?

[Pete Mctree]

Taken from AFAG 401 ; Tree climbing operations

 

Splices should be made by someone competent to splice,

eg the manufacturer. Competence should be demonstrable for

each rope type.

 

 

How would you define competence in this situation?

[bob]

good post pete competence is hard to prove or is it?

[Kev Stephenson]

proof of training in each example (not specific rope but style e.g 16 strand) and some sort of proof that the training you have gives splices of acceptable breaking strain. Is it possible to get your own splices inspected and tested to breaking by an approved body?

 

We can all sit a training course and get a certificate of attendance but that is worth nothing if you didn't listen or understand

[Tom D]

I spliced an eye in my Tachyon, I told the loler inspector that I had done it and he checked it out and passed it, I thing thats good enough.

 

At the end of the day I wouldn't climb on it if I thought it wasn't right.

[Pete Mctree]

I spliced an eye in my Tachyon, I told the loler inspector that I had done it and he checked it out and passed it, I thing thats good enough.

 

At the end of the day I wouldn't climb on it if I thought it wasn't right.

 

That define you as competent?

 

I'm not looking for a subjective answer suck as Kev's, I can come up with plenty myself. I need a definitive answer i.e. Who can and who can't........

Edited November 27, 2009 by Pete Mctree

[Tom D]

There is no definitive answer.

 

Unless a specific qualification is specified in law then you only need to prove competence in court, that will depend on you, your lawyer, and the judge.

[DrewB]

surely getting at least 3 broke tested and taking the average,

able to explain why a certain style of splice has been used,

what can loosen the splice-eg side loads

would these criteria show competence?

[High Scale]

Competence (human resources) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

So splicing a rope for PPE is not a good idea?

 

Nobody can prove competence in splicing?, keeping records of the ropes you splice, batch number, lot numbers, the splice you perform the record of that splice, the records of splices that under go break testing, none of this proves that you are competent to splice?

 

Three company's in this country that I know of that splice ropes for use as PPE are they competent?

 

Interesting.

Edited November 28, 2009 by High Scale

[Mesterh]

Will be interested to see if there is a definitive answer as it will also answer some other questions too.

 

Hopefully there is an answer:001_smile:

[Kev Stephenson]

There is no definitive answer to competent.

 

Can you prove you are a competent tree climber? Yes, you should be qualified (to get this you will have been tested and observed) and in a court of law that qualification would be accepted as a proof of competence.

 

To prove competence you must have had the task tested to an accepted level, for splices surely that must be to a given breaking strain and quality. There are defined methods for splicing (e.g. amount of buried cord, etc), if you follow these giude lines and if you have had some of your splices break tested (and they passed) you would be able to prove competence.

 

Anyone else I would assume could be well practiced and possibly competent but not proven competent.