£7.50 an hour?

[Khriss]

Yea Shane then you loose half when yr super model missus catches you pinching a bum at the pub - frankly deserved K

[spudulike]

You pay peanuts and you get monkeys - just need to give them monkeys chainsaw training

 

The company may get people, they will stay for a bit, get experience and then go get a better paying job. They will then have to start the process all over again - there is a significant cost in training time and longer time to do the daily job.

 

My take is that if you are employing someone and they are making your life as business owner, easier and making you decent money then you verbally give praise and give him a boost in the pay packet as a thank you. Hell, you could even develop their role in the business and give them more say and responsibility - that is the way you retain the right people....but what do I know!

[Mick Dempsey]

It’s a business model to pay little, work the nuts off them, then get the next wave of college leavers desperate for experience when the original ones leave.

 

It can work.

[Shane]

Maybe bring in some Chinese 8 year olds who cant get a job in the Stihl factory out there.

[Matthew Storrs]

59 minutes ago, Mick Dempsey said:

It’s a business model to pay little, work the nuts off them, then get the next wave of college leavers desperate for experience when the original ones leave.

 

It can work.

It might work- but personally I would find the model utterly frustrating and stressful employing in this manner. You would end up with the sort of baffoons who you either have to watch like a hawk or accept that they will probably end up breaking more in kit and ‘accidents’ then the savings you’d make by not paying for decent employees- and then just when you’d think you were getting somewhere with them- they’d bugger of on to pastures new! Hopeless.

[richy_B]

Market forces. If there is a supply of people willing to work for that then employers will offer it. Equally no one has to work for that if they do not feel that undervalued their skills/time. Vote with your feet.

[Mick Dempsey]

1 minute ago, Matthew Storrs said:

It might work- but personally I would find the model utterly frustrating and stressful employing in this manner. You would end up with the sort of baffoons who you either have to watch like a hawk or accept that they will probably end up breaking more in kit and ‘accidents’ then the savings you’d make by not paying for decent employees- and then just when you’d think you were getting somewhere with them- they’d bugger of on to pastures new! Hopeless.

Quite so,  or you can invest emotionally and financially in people who do exactly the same thing.

 

Not saying what’s right or wrong you understand.

[Matthew Storrs]

I guess it’s a way for a novice climber to get there foot in the door- an also for an employer to get someone (even if they are fresh faced) who they can train from the get go how they like things done- once they become more proficient then increase salary accordingly- I guess this would be advertised as a trainee role though not fully fledged.

[bankhouse builder]

I struggle to get lads to sweep up fetch carry and mix for £10 an hour . To answer Khriss bricklayers are in clover at the moment £500 plus per thousand and £15 a meter for blockwork  top end lads are easily achieving 60-80k

 

[Mick Dempsey]

2 minutes ago, Matthew Storrs said:

I guess it’s a way for a novice climber to get there foot in the door- an also for an employer to get someone (even if they are fresh faced) who they can train from the get go how they like things done- once they become more proficient then increase salary accordingly- I guess this would be advertised as a trainee role though not fully fledged.

Yes, I think it works a bit like that.