Stopped by VOSA

[TIMON]

I thought you could tow a sub 750kg trailer (read chipper) behind a "car" (read 3.5t tipper)
No tacho, O license and on a new car licence?
According to the laymans guide to towing
And on the DVSA guidelines.
Am I missing something?

[swinny]

3 minutes ago, felixthelogchopper said:

They're still not free to leave though so you are controlling their time.

I thought it was meant asin working day affected by driver hours? 

[swinny]

1 minute ago, TIMON said:

I thought you could tow a sub 750kg trailer (read chipper) behind a "car" (read 3.5t tipper)
No tacho, O license and on a new car licence?
According to the laymans guide to towing
And on the DVSA guidelines.
Am I missing something?

Im sure you can as its plant and a tool for work. Tacho comes into it when hauling goods i.e logs, chip etc

 

thats my take on it

[beechwood]

Surely working hours only applies to those whom drive as their main job. Cant see how its different from driving a 3.5t to site then back after work. Driving is not main occupation. 

It may be but I thought tacho rules were very strict about how many hours you can work in week but I really don't know a lot about it just what I've been told and that can never be relied on.

The exemption highlighted earlier was for driving 7.5t or less. My point was stick a chipper on a 7.5tonner then your over 7.5t and have to use a tacho.

There may of course by an exemption but I was hoping someone would be able to point it out on the government website.

Regards Neil

[felixthelogchopper]

Just now, swinny said:

I thought it was meant asin working day affected by driver hours? 

You've lost me there, Swinny. I meant that an employee should be paid their hours from starting work at the yard until when they leave it. If the company owner books work in a long way from base, they shouldn't expect their staff to do a longer day for no extra reward. I'm a subby and I work on a swings and roundabouts basis with the people I work for but it generally works out to my benefit, or at least not to my detriment. They're happy as the job is finished to a proper standard and they get home earlier too.

[treequip]

4 minutes ago, swinny said:

Im sure you can as its plant and a tool for work. Tacho comes into it when hauling goods i.e logs, chip etc

 

thats my take on it

So what if the commercial vehicle is empty, that's not hauling goods?

 

The plant thing is a red herring

[roseyweb]

30 minutes ago, beechwood said:

 

Do you mean if you go over the 100km?
Or O license if you tow plant behind a transit?
Where did you read that?

Regards Neil

 

It was told to me the vosa witch 

[swinny]

3 minutes ago, felixthelogchopper said:

You've lost me there, Swinny. I meant that an employee should be paid their hours from starting work at the yard until when they leave it. If the company owner books work in a long way from base, they shouldn't expect their staff to do a longer day for no extra reward. I'm a subby and I work on a swings and roundabouts basis with the people I work for but it generally works out to my benefit, or at least not to my detriment. They're happy as the job is finished to a proper standard and they get home earlier too.

Im with you now and yes agree

[swinny]

[swinny]

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/drivers-hours-goods-vehicles/1-eu-and-aetr-rules-on-drivers-hours#exemptions-and-derogations