Stopped by VOSA

[TIMON]

I thought you could tow a sub 750kg trailer (read chipper) behind a "car" (read 3.5t tipper)
No tacho, O license and on a new car licence?
According to the laymans guide to towing
And on the DVSA guidelines.
Am I missing something?

[swinny]

  On 17/09/2017 at 19:35, felixthelogchopper said:

They're still not free to leave though so you are controlling their time.

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I thought it was meant asin working day affected by driver hours? 

[swinny]

  On 17/09/2017 at 19:39, TIMON said:

I thought you could tow a sub 750kg trailer (read chipper) behind a "car" (read 3.5t tipper)
No tacho, O license and on a new car licence?
According to the laymans guide to towing
And on the DVSA guidelines.
Am I missing something?

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Im sure you can as its plant and a tool for work. Tacho comes into it when hauling goods i.e logs, chip etc

 

thats my take on it

[beechwood]

  On 17/09/2017 at 19:29, swinny said:

Surely working hours only applies to those whom drive as their main job. Cant see how its different from driving a 3.5t to site then back after work. Driving is not main occupation. 

It may be but I thought tacho rules were very strict about how many hours you can work in week but I really don't know a lot about it just what I've been told and that can never be relied on.

The exemption highlighted earlier was for driving 7.5t or less. My point was stick a chipper on a 7.5tonner then your over 7.5t and have to use a tacho.

There may of course by an exemption but I was hoping someone would be able to point it out on the government website.

Regards Neil

[felixthelogchopper]

  On 17/09/2017 at 19:39, swinny said:

I thought it was meant asin working day affected by driver hours? 

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You've lost me there, Swinny. I meant that an employee should be paid their hours from starting work at the yard until when they leave it. If the company owner books work in a long way from base, they shouldn't expect their staff to do a longer day for no extra reward. I'm a subby and I work on a swings and roundabouts basis with the people I work for but it generally works out to my benefit, or at least not to my detriment. They're happy as the job is finished to a proper standard and they get home earlier too.

[treequip]

  On 17/09/2017 at 19:40, swinny said:

Im sure you can as its plant and a tool for work. Tacho comes into it when hauling goods i.e logs, chip etc

 

thats my take on it

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So what if the commercial vehicle is empty, that's not hauling goods?

 

The plant thing is a red herring

[roseyweb]

  On 17/09/2017 at 19:22, beechwood said:

 

Do you mean if you go over the 100km?
Or O license if you tow plant behind a transit?
Where did you read that?

Regards Neil

 

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It was told to me the vosa witch 

[swinny]

  On 17/09/2017 at 19:49, felixthelogchopper said:

You've lost me there, Swinny. I meant that an employee should be paid their hours from starting work at the yard until when they leave it. If the company owner books work in a long way from base, they shouldn't expect their staff to do a longer day for no extra reward. I'm a subby and I work on a swings and roundabouts basis with the people I work for but it generally works out to my benefit, or at least not to my detriment. They're happy as the job is finished to a proper standard and they get home earlier too.

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Im with you now and yes agree

[swinny]

[swinny]

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/drivers-hours-goods-vehicles/1-eu-and-aetr-rules-on-drivers-hours#exemptions-and-derogations