Acceptable or Underhand?

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

2 hours ago, Mick Dempsey said:

 

One of my favourite episodes, make me think of Huck,   "No tree surgery for you!"

Chuckled......

 

But wrong thread to be randomly throwing out the "nazi" label!!!

[peatff]

20 hours ago, Mick Dempsey said:

 

One of my favourite episodes, make me think of Huck,   "No tree surgery for you!"

I've got 33 gig of Seinfeld, all 9 series on my drive and I'll have to watch them again now to find that one.

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

It's a bit of a reversal of the original "acceptable / underhand" question but....

 

When you're (significantly) under cut by a low quality / low professional cowboy outfit, and you know they can low-ball the price because (a) they are working for pennies and (b) they haven't considered statutory considerations (in this case FL and Hedgerow Act)....

 

Do you:

 

(a) tell the customer what they SHOULD be looking for prior to engaging a contractor

(b) tell LA about potential threat to an "important hedgerow" as defined in the Act and tell FC about potential FL breach (not that we might expect any interest / action from FC)

(c) pack up some beers and sandwiches and go watch as the clowns flog themselves senseless for pennies on a nasty job in the knowledge that, if you'd been doing it, it would have paid 3x what they are doing it for....

 

Rhetorical question really, I'll probably do all three just for shts & giggles!

 

 

[skyhuck]

1 hour ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

It's a bit of a reversal of the original "acceptable / underhand" question but....

 

When you're (significantly) under cut by a low quality / low professional cowboy outfit, and you know they can low-ball the price because (a) they are working for pennies and (b) they haven't considered statutory considerations (in this case FL and Hedgerow Act)....

 

Do you:

 

(a) tell the customer what they SHOULD be looking for prior to engaging a contractor

(b) tell LA about potential threat to an "important hedgerow" as defined in the Act and tell FC about potential FL breach (not that we might expect any interest / action from FC)

(c) pack up some beers and sandwiches and go watch as the clowns flog themselves senseless for pennies on a nasty job in the knowledge that, if you'd been doing it, it would have paid 3x what they are doing it for....

 

Rhetorical question really, I'll probably do all three just for shts & giggles!

 

 

(d) crack on with my own work, then get home to my family.

[billpierce]

(d) crack on with my own work, then get home to my family.

Lol

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[Gary Prentice]

d) accept that customers are like buses, there will another along in a minute and you can't compete if they won't pay and are prepared to cut corners. 

 

 

Still annoying when you've invested time and effort in the quote, but you can't win them all ( unless your working for peanuts)

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

There is (d) of course, and I kind of anticipated that....

 

But it carries certain moral issues which some may be afflicted with, others perhaps not so much. 

 

As a Parish councillor, a Tree council Tree Warden, a professional and an environmentist, I'd be reneaging on all of those voluntary responsibilities, and submitting to the acceptance of poor arboricultural / professional standards within the industry, and make myself complicit in the potential loss of an 'important hedge'  if I chose (d.)

 

Its not a "biggy" regarding not getting the job, it's like as is often said, I now know they are not the type of people I'd want to work with/for. 

 

But it would be worth watching a while whilst some mugs work for peanuts, it's nearby and I pass it at least twice per day so no additional energy expended!

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Gary Prentice]

To be fair then, as a PC & a tree warden you're wearing a different hat, which changes the situation somewhat. 

 

Wearing those hats imposes statutory duties and changes the available options. 

 

 

[Rough Hewn]

A mate called me in to quote on a huge hedge,
Approx 200 metres long across a dozen properties with small trees, bushes, prams,shopping trolleys and about 3 skips worth of debris and rubbish.
He put in a "cheap price" because he needed the work £1500.
Found out later the "winning" bid was £700.
Would have cost that for the skips alone.
Went past a few months later, it was all still there.
Except the bushes which had been lightly trimmed.
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[kevinjohnsonmbe]

34 minutes ago, Rough Hewn said:

A mate called me in to quote on a huge hedge,
Approx 200 metres long across a dozen properties with small trees, bushes, prams,shopping trolleys and about 3 skips worth of debris and rubbish.
He put in a "cheap price" because he needed the work £1500.
Found out later the "winning" bid was £700.
Would have cost that for the skips alone.
Went past a few months later, it was all still there.
Except the bushes which had been lightly trimmed.

some people eh....