Celox

[MasterBlaster]

Documentation on that or I'm calling shenanigans.

 

It works perfect on smaller wounds, too.

[Yve_Clark]

Hey, I think that maybe I've been listening to too many shenanigans

[Ty Korrigan]

IF... you had an unstoppable nose bleed... Could you sniff the stuff?

[scotspine1]

Have heard of one or two freaky situations where guys have poured celox granules into a small Silky saw wound and because the celox congeals the blood, circulation has stopped and they've ended up having to get their finger amputated

 

what?

 

ok.....as MB said is this just anecdotal or is there published scientific evidence to prove your finger will be amputated if you use Celox on a small Silky cut?

[Yve_Clark]

I don't have confirmed evidence of these incidents Tim, purely anecdotal.

 

I'll do some more research on this in the morning and post findings.

 

Terribly sorry to be causing alarm bells

[ArbjobsNick]

MB

I told Yvonne about an incedent earlier in the year a yound boy had cut over half way through the tip of his finger and Cellox was applied to the wound. Yes it stopped the blood but it would almost certainly have also stopped the blood flow to the tip of the finger. Now it was some time ago I did my first aid at work but I seem to remember tissue starts to die within 15 minuites. So allowing for the delay in transporting to lad to hospital and the delay in A & E whilst the medical staff worked out what had been applied I would hazzard a guess that the lad didn't even start reciving treatment to re connect his finger tip for maybe an hour. Did he loose it ? I don't know can I find out? probably? Do we agree that Cellox isnt good in all circumstances ? I hope so.

 

Cellox is a great product the problem we have here in the UK is that it is being widely sold as a cure all with no training or understanding how or when to apply it correctly. Many hospital staff in the UK do not know what it is or how to deal with it (some hemostatin products cause burns when water is applied) so being cautious medical staff may take some time in finding out how to treat a casualty with Cellox applied. If you have a major trauma any delay may count.

 

Good training and carefull working practice that avoids accidents cannot be replaced by a £15.oo bag of magic powders.

Edited November 23, 2009 by ArbjobsNick

[Yve_Clark]

Thanks for confirming the circumstances of this incident Nick and my apologies to all for the slight misinterpretation of the story.

 

The packaging here in the UK states that Celox is 'for life threatening emergency bleeding' and 'for use by trained emergency responders'. This does seem to rule out use of the product for minor injuries. Perhaps the packaging in the US is different MB??

[Mesterh]

IF... you had an unstoppable nose bleed... Could you sniff the stuff?

 

I hope that you are joking!

[scotspine1]

I hope that you are joking!

 

Mester, no joke, I once saw a groundie snort a line of Celox for an unstoppable nosebleed, mixed results......stopped the nosebleed but he died from an expanding head, within 10 minutes his brain was rattling around inside his bulbous skull, burst his hardhat open. The coffin was square.

[Mesterh]

TUT TUT TUT,

 

I bet that taught him a lesson he wont forget

(Couldnt find a finger wagging smiley)

 

 

The silly bugger!