Potus ???

[Steven P]

4 hours ago, Johnsond said:

Saying speak English could be a hate crime! I don’t like bashing the… | James Harvey

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Saying speak English could be a hate crime! I don’t like bashing the police, but this clip makes that...

When you see lunacy like this and the amount of people being prosecuted for online posts, maybe Trump and Vance are not far off the mark about freedom of speech being eroded in the UK 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️” a hate crime” it makes 1984 seem sensible. 

 

 

?? What happened there then? I was fully expecting to pause for lunch to find JohnsonD all over the shop how the New York Cabbies are singing nothing but praise for The Trump, that the shops are adorned with MAGA bunting, Times square ticker is showing news we don't get here how Trump is solving humanitarian crisis and wars around the world. And then we get a post attacking the UK government?

 

Perhaps real Americans need educating to your view that The Rapist is actually a fantastic man, one to have over for dinner so long as you don't mention his rapes, bankruptcies, world leading number of impeachments, tanking his besties Tesla stock, and then all stocks, and the cronyism to make his pals billions at the cost of the ordinary '401k' holders. So long as you avoid that he'd be great to have for dinner... oh, I'd also not invite the wife or kids though.

[Steven P]

1 minute ago, GarethM said:

I've stated many many times I'm a pretty old school centrist small c conservate.

 

The way I look at it is L-R now.

 

Green - Liberal - New Labour - Conservative - reform mostly in the middle maybe a little right.

 

But there is no right-wing of old like the 70s labour party with the daft buggers of Corbyn salivating and calling for death to scabs and such.

 

And the centre mark is the gap Liberal - Labour

 

 

Centrist.... you should tell your fingers this because the way you type your posts to be honest are doing your core values a disservice.

[GarethM]

Just now, Steven P said:

And the centre mark is the gap Liberal - Labour

 

Centrist.... you should tell your fingers this because the way you type your posts to be honest are doing your core values a disservice.

Small c isnt doing any disservice to any of my beliefs or opinions.

 

What's wrong with wanting the state to operate with as little of my money as possible and be as self sufficient as possible?.

 

Same way as councils operated when they were local towns.

 

There's a fag paper between all 4, you couldn't even tell the difference between any except reform!.

[Mark J]

58 minutes ago, GarethM said:

Small c isnt doing any disservice to any of my beliefs or opinions.

 

What's wrong with wanting the state to operate with as little of my money as possible and be as self sufficient as possible?.

 

Same way as councils operated when they were local towns.

 

There's a fag paper between all 4, you couldn't even tell the difference between any except reform!.

Wilfully or not, you are missing the point that even Labour are now right of centre. Where does that put Reform?

[GarethM]

New Labour under Kier aren't right of anything, all three are equally Left with wishy washy leftyness inaction.

 

Reform are more centre/a little right of centre.

 

Old labour pre tony was so right wing with blood lust, mad as a bag of frogs but you knew what was on the tin.

[Steven P]

This is going to go round and around...

 

Pop over to google Gareth, check where the left / right wing sentiments are, think you'll find that your views are not so centrist, but firmly in the 'right' camp - thinking that the state should be smaller, reduced costs, private enterprises and so on.

 

Nothing bad with opposing views, till you get to the extremes and you start getting intolerances in there, but left - right views are OK.

 

Since Tony Blair the Labour party have positioned them selves to the right of centre, but to the left of the Tory party. Their current objectives are financial with the outcome of that being a right wing stance at the expense of their traditional left wing position. No surprises he was labelled "Tory Blair".

 

So no, you are right wing but not (according to your posts here) in a bad way.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, that great orator will be awake soon, brace for a barrage of posts how the US are embracing Trumpy for all his failures. Probably need a longer screen to fit in all the screen shots.

[sime42]

3 hours ago, GarethM said:

Oh how wrong you are, I'm a citizen of Great Britain.

 

I see a lot of lefty bs spouted here but I remain mostly in the centre as that's just considered right wing by lefties.

 

They have gone so far left it's almost full circle and the doors either hitting them onh  the arse 2nd time around or it's like the moron trying to open a fire door from the outside smushed against the glass.

 

Gareth, with all due respect, there is a large gap in perception here; with regard to where you are placed on the political spectrum. (Based on your contributions to this forum)

 

Let's see your result for this as as starting point. Or any other such  indication tool. It'll only take you 5 minutes.

 

 

 

The Political Compass

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explanation of the Political Compass model

 

 

 

 

 

[GarethM]

The Political Compass

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explanation of the Political Compass model

 

Does that make you feel better?.

[Steven P]

no, no, keep up with discussion and slide away from snide remarks and attacks.

[GarethM]

1 minute ago, Steven P said:

no, no, keep up with discussion and slide away from snide remarks and attacks.

Wtf are you on about now.

 

You can't bill your union hours for being on here