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Posted
Just now, Steven P said:

Only saying.... Time for Trumpy to step up I think.

 

 

May be a graphic of text that says "Ukraine Military Aid as % of GDP * * Denmark Estonia Lithuania Latvia Finland Sweden * * 2.04 2.03 1.48 1.35 + Slovakia Netherlands Poland 0.85 0.79 0.63 0.62 0.58 0.48 * Czechia Norway * Romania 0.41 0.38 UK 0.35 Germany 0.32 USA 0.3 Belgium Canada The USA has TheUSAhasgiven given the most military aid in absolute dollars butmanyother but many other nationshavegiven given nations have more moreasa%of of their economy 0.29 0.14 0.13 0.07 0.06 0.06 France Italy Australia Spain InformationisBeautiful Information Beautiful *borders *bordersRussia Russia borders bordersUkraine Ukraine Feb22 Dec source: Suppo Tracker (Kiel Institute)"

Why not post actual currency amounts!.

 

As Denmark and Estonia aren't exactly known for a big population, like the population of Sweden is less than London.

 

Apple to apple, not apple to watermelon.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Steven P said:

Only saying.... Time for Trumpy to step up I think.

 

 

May be a graphic of text that says "Ukraine Military Aid as % of GDP * * Denmark Estonia Lithuania Latvia Finland Sweden * * 2.04 2.03 1.48 1.35 + Slovakia Netherlands Poland 0.85 0.79 0.63 0.62 0.58 0.48 * Czechia Norway * Romania 0.41 0.38 UK 0.35 Germany 0.32 USA 0.3 Belgium Canada The USA has TheUSAhasgiven given the most military aid in absolute dollars butmanyother but many other nationshavegiven given nations have more moreasa%of of their economy 0.29 0.14 0.13 0.07 0.06 0.06 France Italy Australia Spain InformationisBeautiful Information Beautiful *borders *bordersRussia Russia borders bordersUkraine Ukraine Feb22 Dec source: Suppo Tracker (Kiel Institute)"

So 2% of a little is better than 0.3% of trillions 🤔

You really are clutching at straws here. 

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Posted
Just now, GarethM said:

Why not post actual currency amounts!.

 

As Denmark and Estonia aren't exactly known for a big population, like the population of Sweden is less than London.

 

Apple to apple, not apple to watermelon.

Because it doesn’t fit the narrative Gareth 

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Posted
1 minute ago, Johnsond said:

Because it doesn’t fit the narrative Gareth 

Very true, maybe with this EU army the french swinger keeps going on about.

 

They could use that table to decide how many troops from each nation, like the united colours of Eurocrats.

Posted
18 minutes ago, GarethM said:

Why not post actual currency amounts!.

 

As Denmark and Estonia aren't exactly known for a big population, like the population of Sweden is less than London.

 

Apple to apple, not apple to watermelon.

 

 

However it is perhaps the most fair way to compare which nations are actually making a sacrifice to support The Ukraine and how much.

 

 

We could compare it to taxes, I use this example because it is something we all understand. Going by how much in $$ or ££ we give, a minimum wage student giving say £2000 a year in tax compared to a high earner on £100k+ giving £2000 a year in tax, the minimum wage student is giving a comparative vast amount and by doing so will be suffering great hardship. The high earner might have to wait an extra month before they upgrade to the latest 100" TV, and that amount doesn't cause any hardship at all.

 

The basis of almost every welfare state, where society pulls together for everyone is based on a % system, we understand and accept this. So what is the issue with comparing how much we are giving to support those in need as a %, it is not a new concept, alien to our way of thinking, or perhaps it is your agenda that is embarrassed that instead of a great saviour, massive sacrifices, there are other countries out there (including the UK) who are actually making a bigger sacrifice?

 

 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Steven P said:

 

 

However it is perhaps the most fair way to compare which nations are actually making a sacrifice to support The Ukraine and how much.

 

 

We could compare it to taxes, I use this example because it is something we all understand. Going by how much in $$ or ££ we give, a minimum wage student giving say £2000 a year in tax compared to a high earner on £100k+ giving £2000 a year in tax, the minimum wage student is giving a comparative vast amount and by doing so will be suffering great hardship. The high earner might have to wait an extra month before they upgrade to the latest 100" TV, and that amount doesn't cause any hardship at all.

 

The basis of almost every welfare state, where society pulls together for everyone is based on a % system, we understand and accept this. So what is the issue with comparing how much we are giving to support those in need as a %, it is not a new concept, alien to our way of thinking, or perhaps it is your agenda that is embarrassed that instead of a great saviour, massive sacrifices, there are other countries out there (including the UK) who are actually making a bigger sacrifice?

A welfare system is there to benefit ITS OWN CITIZENS.

 

Comrade fetch me the production & agriculture quotas, but they are dying of starvation.

 

Shoot them and take the grain, we must meet the quota or comrade Starmer will send my family to the gulag again.

Posted
1 hour ago, Yournamehere said:

News coming in on various newsfeeds - via reuters, which I take as reliable and assume I don't need to verify - that 240,000 Ukranian refugees will be sent back to Ukrania and n000 Afghans who worked along side the military in intelligence gathering in Afghanistan and thus would have been hunted down and shot by the Taliban and were thus offered asylum and a safe home in America, are being sent back to Afganistania

Linky

Still, as long as America is great again and Trump's rabid supporters have someone to look down on to make themselves feel better, who gives a F huh? 

Quick update - in the name of balanced reporting - apparently The White House has denied that this is true.

<Christine Keeler is on the phone she says...> Oh hell you know by now what she says.

 

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I was going to suggest you read a bit more about history of this great nation but you'd probably have a heart attack.

 

But, hand wringing liberal types always been the most blood thirsty, wanting to meddle and cause more fighting and death.

 

Donald ain't paying and neither should we, I certainly won't sign up to fight for our dear leader.

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Posted
19 minutes ago, GarethM said:

A welfare system is there to benefit ITS OWN CITIZENS.

 

Comrade fetch me the production & agriculture quotas, but they are dying of starvation.

 

Shoot them and take the grain, we must meet the quota or comrade Starmer will send my family to the gulag again.

 

Every now and then you need to look over your back fence to see what is happening out there in the world, take an interest and perhaps take some responsibility to everyone. We are fortunate as a rich nation that we have cash to spare, might not like spending it but we have it. Going back 80 years if we'd said "Ahh, it's only Poland, nothing to do with us" "Ahh, only Belgium" "Ahh, only France" (or as it might have been many of the North African countries, or in Asia), we'd have been a very lonely beacon for about 3 weeks and then a part of the greater Germany. I think this is one of those times when we need to look over there, and take an interest, invest, and realise that globally citizens need our help This is a good thing to do. Head out of arse time, do something.

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