Potus ???

[AHPP]

54 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

🤷‍♂️ cronyism from whom ?? Trump is just back ?? 

The state. It doesn’t matter which soap opera character is currently fronting it.

[GarethM]

1 minute ago, AHPP said:

The state. It doesn’t matter which soap opera character is currently fronting it.

So WHO will be paying then, usual and typical reactionary he's getting paid BS.

 

So who foots the bill for your ISS, telescope etc.

[Mark J]

2 hours ago, GarethM said:

So WHO will be paying then, usual and typical reactionary he's getting paid BS.

 

So who foots the bill for your ISS, telescope etc.

You really do make two short planks look like a computer. 

[GarethM]

6 minutes ago, Mark J said:

You really do make two short planks look like a computer. 

I'm sure you've been for many a long walk off Wigan pier.

 

And maybe read what he wrote, beforehand. 

 

"The state. It doesn’t matter which soap opera character is currently fronting it."

Edited December 11 by GarethM

[sime42]

7 hours ago, Steven P said:

 

Not at all, he is a business man, making a lot of money and actually pushing the green agenda forward with his electric cars and BESS systems.

 

As Mark J says he has bought himself into favour with Trump with cash to his election campaign and dazzling with his business abilities (Trump craves both).. cannot fault him with that, many many others have done the same world over in the past and will do in the future... The corruption charge is levelled more at Trump for allowing himself to be bought so easily.

 

Watch this space though, Trumps oil backers won't be happy if he pushes electric vehicles and battery storage, Musk won't be happy if he punishes electric vehicles. Trump won't be happy if Musk becomes Times Person of the Year, and vice versa. It is an unlikely pairing, be interesting to watch.

 

But Musk, there purely for the money and business opportunities he can buy. Suspect you are assuming too much again.

 

I think you're being slightly generous towards the right wing anti-woke mincer there. His pushing of the green agenda feels more like a means to an end, making a fortune, rather than motivated by altruism. Much like Trump, I don't believe he does anything for the good of humanity or the planet. Or anyone but himself. There's no denying his drive and determination and general business accumin though. Worth noting that his profits are partly derived from the exploitation of his workers, and others.

 

It will be interesting to see how the conflict between ICE and BEV plays out. My guess is that he'll switch to fossil fuel powered vehicles if the pressure from Trump's other friends is too great. No doubt he'll still be very successful in that; a lot of the technologies and processes used by Tesla are ground breaking, way ahead of the other major auto manufacturers. Or, he'll continue on his current trajectory with electric cars and the oil barons will be forced to concentrate their efforts into making yet more filthy plastic that we don't need.

 

Disclaimer. I have no military service record.

 

 

 

 

Elon Musk's Tesla lobbied UK to charge petrol drivers more

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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Musk's firm backed the government's green stance, despite its maverick chief executive's social media attacks.

 

 

[Steven P]

Maybe not pushing but influencing it to make money. Yes a pure business man (he didn't found Tesla, just saw the opportunity to bung in cash and take control)... but linked strongly to EVs now I am not sure he could backtrack too far to petrol vehicles. 

[Johnsond]

3 hours ago, sime42 said:

 

I think you're being slightly generous towards the right wing anti-woke mincer there. His pushing of the green agenda feels more like a means to an end, making a fortune, rather than motivated by altruism. Much like Trump, I don't believe he does anything for the good of humanity or the planet. Or anyone but himself. There's no denying his drive and determination and general business accumin though. Worth noting that his profits are partly derived from the exploitation of his workers, and others.

 

It will be interesting to see how the conflict between ICE and BEV plays out. My guess is that he'll switch to fossil fuel powered vehicles if the pressure from Trump's other friends is too great. No doubt he'll still be very successful in that; a lot of the technologies and processes used by Tesla are ground breaking, way ahead of the other major auto manufacturers. Or, he'll continue on his current trajectory with electric cars and the oil barons will be forced to concentrate their efforts into making yet more filthy plastic that we don't need.

 

Disclaimer. I have no military service record.

 

 

 

 

Elon Musk's Tesla lobbied UK to charge petrol drivers more

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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Musk's firm backed the government's green stance, despite its maverick chief executive's social media attacks.

 

 

There’s no denying his drive and determination and general business acumen 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

That has to be the biggest understatement ever 42 ffs he’s the richest man In the world 😂

You won’t beat that one for a while I’d say 

 

Or, he'll continue on his current trajectory with electric cars and the oil barons will be forced to concentrate their efforts into making yet more filthy plastic that we don't need. 🤷‍♂️

 

Dear me 42 you do realise how much of that nasty oil produced by  nasty oil barons is actually required to help build and run those planet saving electric cars. 
ATL is weak at the moment it would seem. 

Edited December 11 by Johnsond

[Mesterh]

6 hours ago, sime42 said:

 

I think you're being slightly generous towards the right wing anti-woke mincer there. His pushing of the green agenda feels more like a means to an end, making a fortune, rather than motivated by altruism. Much like Trump, I don't believe he does anything for the good of humanity or the planet. Or anyone but himself. There's no denying his drive and determination and general business accumin though. Worth noting that his profits are partly derived from the exploitation of his workers, and others.

 

It will be interesting to see how the conflict between ICE and BEV plays out. My guess is that he'll switch to fossil fuel powered vehicles if the pressure from Trump's other friends is too great. No doubt he'll still be very successful in that; a lot of the technologies and processes used by Tesla are ground breaking, way ahead of the other major auto manufacturers. Or, he'll continue on his current trajectory with electric cars and the oil barons will be forced to concentrate their efforts into making yet more filthy plastic that we don't need.

 

Disclaimer. I have no military service record.

 

 

 

 

Elon Musk's Tesla lobbied UK to charge petrol drivers more

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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Musk's firm backed the government's green stance, despite its maverick chief executive's social media attacks.

 

 

Hmm, it does look like Musk is turning out to be a bit of a rat. The anti EV pro big oil must be hating his guts more than ever.

 

[sime42]

12 hours ago, Johnsond said:

There’s no denying his drive and determination and general business acumen 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

That has to be the biggest understatement ever 42 ffs he’s the richest man In the world 😂

You won’t beat that one for a while I’d say 

 

Or, he'll continue on his current trajectory with electric cars and the oil barons will be forced to concentrate their efforts into making yet more filthy plastic that we don't need. 🤷‍♂️

 

Dear me 42 you do realise how much of that nasty oil produced by  nasty oil barons is actually required to help build and run those planet saving electric cars. 
ATL is weak at the moment it would seem. 

 

Ah, the inevitable edit. That's where the substance might be, if indeed there is any. Is that it now Dave mate, or is there more yet to come?

 

Yes, I realise exactly how much plastic is in a car. Also plastic based adhesive and sealant. Cars are literally glued together these days, there's hundreds of meters of it. If you think that EVs are going to save the planet then you need to re-evaluate your religion I suggest.

 

Anyway, you've entirely missed the point of this sub-discussion as normal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Disclaimer. I have no military service record.

[Johnsond]

3 minutes ago, sime42 said:

 

Ah, the inevitable edit. That's where the substance might be, if indeed there is any. Is that it now Dave mate, or is there more yet to come?

 

Yes, I realise exactly how much plastic is in a car. Also plastic based adhesive and sealant. Cars are literally glued together these days, there's hundreds of meters of it. If you think that EVs are going to save the planet then you need to re-evaluate your religion I suggest.

 

Anyway, you've entirely missed the point of this sub-discussion as normal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Disclaimer. I have no military service record.

Yeah the edit facility is useful and no there was no point whatsoever other than having a laugh at your utterly ludicrous comment on musk and his general business acumen 😂😂. 
 

You do know he is the richest human being on this planet 42 !!. 
 

Regards the rather strange inclusion of the service comment yet again  I’m pretty sure I’ve never asked you 42, or for that matter even cared if you ever served.like Ive said before regards SP, I presume he is off his mams tit, he doesn’t need you to protect him from answering simple questions. The detailed strategic and tactical examination of the Ukrainian and now Syrian conflict he has provided for us all on other threads was what led me to wonder where he had developed such an  insight into military matters 👍