Potus ???

[Mark J]

8 minutes ago, GarethM said:

And I'm equally sure I can find a video where they're able to argue Biden's handler Obama is married to a man and those kids are surrogates.

Did you watch it? 
If so, what are your views on the points made? 
If you didn't watch it you probably should. 

 

[Steven P]

1 hour ago, GarethM said:

Right wing media, what right wing media.

 

Or are you just talking about the editor apologies section.

 

Are you distracting here to avoid talking about the issue? Trump is acting in an authoritarian way, reminiscent of the 'great' fascist dictators and unable to defend the man (?) you are instead picking up on which press have right wing and which have left wing political views and whether there are videos out there showing Obama is married to a man (go on then, post it).

 

I think that while the views of the press we view are an important consideration to form an impartial view, current events in the US with Trump sending troops to the streets to quell what are small scale 'riots' are a far more important consideration... which you have bypassed to talk about whether Obama is gay (which TBH is an irrelevance, he is still a successful and respected statesman).

 

[GarethM]

5 minutes ago, Steven P said:

Are you distracting here to avoid talking about the issue? Trump is acting in an authoritarian way, reminiscent of the 'great' fascist dictators and unable to defend the man (?) you are instead picking up on which press have right wing and which have left wing political views and whether there are videos out there showing Obama is married to a man (go on then, post it).

 

I think that while the views of the press we view are an important consideration to form an impartial view, current events in the US with Trump sending troops to the streets to quell what are small scale 'riots' are a far more important consideration... which you have bypassed to talk about whether Obama is gay (which TBH is an irrelevance, he is still a successful and respected statesman).

Yet more pages of deflection, waffle and SP wordage rollox.

 

None of you seem to accept he won, he's deporting illegals because they are illegal and making America for actual Americans.

 

If it's soooooo small scale why hasn't the locals stopped it then after what 5 days ?.

[Steven P]

Take a look at the stats. the number of arrests, the damages caused and so on. The numbers which do not have opinions. 3,000 (?) National Guard and 700 Marines and the order of arrests and damages is to be honest on a level of a nasty old firm game in Glasgow. Hardly needing to send in the troops for that, the Californian authorities have stated that they have the resources and ability to do the job.

 

I'd be far more inclined to believe those with local knowledge than Trump to be honest where his assessment on Sunday was "they are nasty people, they are spitting at the police"... which shows how out of touch of the situation he actually is.

 

Sending in the troops is symptomatic of something else, not crowd control.

[GarethM]

2 minutes ago, Steven P said:

Take a look at the stats. the number of arrests, the damages caused and so on. The numbers which do not have opinions. 3,000 (?) National Guard and 700 Marines and the order of arrests and damages is to be honest on a level of a nasty old firm game in Glasgow. Hardly needing to send in the troops for that, the Californian authorities have stated that they have the resources and ability to do the job.

 

I'd be far more inclined to believe those with local knowledge than Trump to be honest where his assessment on Sunday was "they are nasty people, they are spitting at the police"... which shows how out of touch of the situation he actually is.

 

Sending in the troops is symptomatic of something else, not crowd control.

I don't care how many national guard they sent, if the locals couldn't sort it in 6/12 hours maybe after that hard luck you get national guard.

 

If they're soo well equipped then WHY has it not been stopped before ?.

 

As usual NO ANSWER

[Oldfeller]

I just rebuilt an old pioneer saw,, it wont start,,, I bet it's feckin' trumps fault.

I can't find my glasses,,, that bloody Donald bloke  again,,

ffs if your missus ain't in the mood you'd blame trump!

I'm more concerned what your darling starmer is gonna **************** up next!

 

[Mark J]

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[sime42]

A few people seem to be falling for fake news again. Look at the faceless crowds dudes! I wonder how much of this stuff is actually put out by the Trump administration, it's one of his specialties after all.

 

BBC Verify Live: Debunking AI fakes as US protests spark online disinformation

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Latest updates from the BBC's specialists in fact-checking, verifying video and tackling disinformation.

 

 

 

[Haironyourchest]

17 minutes ago, sime42 said:

A few people seem to be falling for fake news again. Look at the faceless crowds dudes! I wonder how much of this stuff is actually put out by the Trump administration, it's one of his specialties after all.

 

BBC Verify Live: Debunking AI fakes as US protests spark online disinformation

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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Latest updates from the BBC's specialists in fact-checking, verifying video and tackling disinformation.

 

 

 

 

What percentage of the media footage of the riots is AI fake, and what percentage is real, in your estimation?

[sime42]

I've no idea, but let's say 5%. The actual figure doesn't matter, it should be 0. The concern is that the so called leader of the free world believes that it is acceptable to routinely pass off fake news as actual real news, lies and opinions as facts, etc etc. Or maybe he knows it's wrong but doesn't care as his supporters let him get away with it, which is worse.