Potus ???

[Stubby]

How are the penguins going to deal with it I wonder ?

[Haironyourchest]

Probably the end of globalisation. End of the unipolar world order. The real Great Reset. Beginning of the end of the EU. We will all Build Back Better in due course, after some hard times. Hard times make for strong men. Men, prepare to get strong 💪

 

 

 

[GarethM]

6 minutes ago, Big J said:

It's not a quid pro quo at all. The figures that Trump is using are pure fantasy and seem to be loosely based on the trade deficit the US has with any given country.

Take the EU. Trump claims that they charge 39% tarriffs. The EU Commission puts it at 1%, the WTO puts it at 4.8%. Andrew Kenningham, Chief Europe Economist at Capital Economics puts it at 3%.Any one of the three figures is wildly different to 39%.

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/04/03/fact-check-are-donald-trumps-tariffs-on-the-eu-really-reciprocal

So if it's soooooo made up why do you care from your Swedish wood spoiling fjord ?.

 

Is it going to effect/affect you one bit ?.

 

All I hear, is another excuse to have your doom mongering tds fix. Whilst having a who's TDs is worse leaderboard.

[GarethM]

1 minute ago, Big J said:

 

A lot of uneducated racism there. Sweden doesn't have fjords, for a start.

Yes, it will affect me potentially. One of the two sawmills I work at exports 40% of it's production to North America (I'm not sure how much is Canada and how much is the USA, but I imagine it's at least an even split). 

So if 20% of the production of the mill is subject to 20% tarriffs, it will affect me and my coworkers.

Actually it does have a fjord with your northern neighbours and yes I've know people that have been, they also have a lot of lakes and it can't be racist as your British.

 

And may I suggest you speak to anyone in Sweden, they make my insistence of the greatness of British engineering look tame and I've worked with a lot of them over the years.

 

Well it's merica 1st, plain and simples.

[Mesterh]

3 hours ago, Stubby said:

How are the penguins going to deal with it I wonder ?

I'm not sure, but they look, pissed.

 

[GarethM]

3 minutes ago, Mesterh said:

I'm not sure, but they look, pissed.

 

Everyone knows Guinness is liquidised penguins and the white stuff floats to the top

[GarethM]

23 minutes ago, Big J said:

What you're referring to as fjords would be in Böhuslän, and to say they are fjords is a bit like going to the Cotswolds and declaring them mountains. 

Regardless, your statement about the tariffs not affecting me or my community was patently incorrect. 

 

And I believe that this policy of Trump's will very quickly collapse as every strata of American society turns on him as prices sky-rocket and the value of their pension pots collapses. 

And what if they don't turn on him ?.

 

And what if America actually begins to prosper again, wellllllllllll ?.

 

And before you wear your pearls out, what I wrote was a question so get off your soapbox before you get a nosebleed.

Edited April 4 by GarethM

[Mark J]

[Steven P]

1 hour ago, GarethM said:

And what if they don't turn on him ?.

 

And what if America actually begins to prosper again, wellllllllllll ?.

 

And before you wear your pearls out, what I wrote was a question so get off your soapbox before you get a nosebleed.

 

Fairly confident that in the next 3 3/4 years (or 3 1/2 till the next US election) that consumer prices in the US will be higher than they are today... even with the usual "accounting for inflation".. that might have to be another one I come back to and say "I told you so".

 

 

The US business model is make as much money as possible. I think it is fair to say that if an importing direct competitor puts their prices up and without their cheaper price to moderate the market you'd put the prices up to capitalise.

 

Could you in all seriousness - and you are not an idiot Gareth so I usually assume your thought is considered - in all serious could you stand up and be counted to say that after a short period of price increases brought on by tariffs, once US manufacturing and production kicks in US goods will drop again to their starting price (plus inflation).

 

 

 

** Inflation... of course I am assuming normal about 3% inflation and not inflation brought in by price increases caused by tariffs

[Johnsond]

11 hours ago, Steven P said:

Don't encourage him Gareth, this thread is contentious enough at times and trying to keep a relevant and useful discussion going needs some reminding what we are talking about.

 

Might have escaped your notice, I am not President nor have I stood to be president (something to do with Aliens and all that being barred from standing). So an irrelevance.

 

How’s Gareth’s reply encouraging anyone you daft bugger 

Or is that you working the narrative for all it’s worth. 
Lot of global level financial predictions from you on here today SP 🤔be interesting to see from what perspective other than being able to read the news you make them from 😂perhaps a description of what you do might help explain the level of knowledge on all subjects you bring to the forum 🤷‍♂️

Edited April 4 by Johnsond