Potus ???

[GarethM]

15 minutes ago, sime42 said:

 

That perfectly illustrates his point.

 

The business about lefty students getting radicalised at college/university is a Daily Mail trope I think. Certainly is in my experience. I had zero interest and only very slightly more knowledge of politics at that age. The same for everyone else I saw around me. People are there to drink and other stuff, chase the opposite sex and generally have a good time. Other than that it's just academic learning. Politics doesn't figure at all. It's that old Correlation/Causation conflation again.

If you left uni before say 2008, I would agree.

 

Sadly education became a very indoctrinated environment, a pernicious teaching that the state knows best agenda.

 

Pre 2008, your teacher just taught and outside of that environment they were practically invisible.

[Steven P]

2 hours ago, GarethM said:

Auwwww, did you have to leave twitter and move here because they stopped you smelling your own farts ?.

 

Typical lefty tosh, play dumb and think the world revolves around your echo chamber college debate level politics.

 

The Gretta playbook, shout loud about idealistic waffle whilst doing nothing.

 

Sorry Gareth, despite having polar opposite political views I can normally rely on you to form a sentence and an eloquent argument (even when you are so very, very wrong). You're going down a slippery slope of just firing out insults to the detriment of the threads. Others have done that, and still do that, and don't get my respect for it either.

[GarethM]

And to bring things back to topic.

 

Why is Donald/Elon so bad for cutting all the extraneous crazy spending on worthless stuff and a national debt the size of Europe ?.

 

USAID for example, or those millions of dead people still recieving benefits and what 150+ years old!.

 

Clinton sacked 400k people just for reference.

 

It's quite easy to bisect/dissect what he says, you're just use to speech written drivel from Starmers type.

 

They've gurned for weeks about the where to put a full stop and a comma, Donald just adlibs so you get unfiltered somewhat honesty.

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[tree-fancier123]

going to Mars with taxpayers money, not a waste, but I would of prioritise medical research over space exploration, some types of cancer always kill

[Yournamehere]

9 hours ago, GarethM said:

Auwwww, did you have to leave twitter and move here because they stopped you smelling your own farts ?.

 

Typical lefty tosh, play dumb and think the world revolves around your echo chamber college debate level politics.

 

The Gretta playbook, shout loud about idealistic waffle whilst doing nothing.

Before we get too much back on topic, I've only just got back in, but can I just say that No I didn't have to leave twitter because I have never joined it: I have never twittered in my life. So wrong there. And secondly at my age my guts are so rancid it is not possible to stop smelling my farts: when I free the wind everyone smells my farts: your eyes glaze over, the paint falls off the wall, mice throw themselves on the traps, smoke alarms start sounding all over town.

Priests come to my door just to let me know they are disgusted with me.

Not just disappointed: disgusted.

So wrong on at least two points.

I've no idea whether you are right or wrong on the rest because I've no idea what it means: it's just more of your usual nonsensical gibber gibber hey gibber hey gibber.

But do keep posting it won't you? I've decided to find it amusing.

 

As you were.

 

[Big J]

It's interesting to wonder what compromat Putin has on Trump....

 

I think Trump will quite quickly realise that aligning with Putin and alienating Ukraine and Europe is only popular with a narrow part of his base. How the Republican party has changed - could you imagine Reagan-era GOP politicians siding with the Soviets over Europeans? 

 

Trump's grasp of reality does seem to be slipping more by the day. To insist that Ukraine started the war is total nonsense. 

 

It now looks like Nato has been defanged, as who would enforce article five? 

 

And Trump's idea of a 'deal' with Russia is just to give them everything they want. Again, what does Putin have on Trump? 

 

Bleak times ahead. Listening to an interview on Times Radio today with Richard Shirreff today, he believes that the direction we're heading could result in Europe being directly at war with Russia within 5 years. With the potential total US withdrawel from Europe, US capitulation to Russia and Putin's endless thirst for imperial expansion, can states like the Baltics do anything other than fear the worst? 

[GarethM]

J, without conflating topics.

 

Europe is already at war with Russia, one they've effectively bankrolled for Putin by buying all that lovely gas and fertiliser.

 

They laughed at Donald when he said as much, then they closed down Germany's nuclear built more wind turbines this requiring more gas.

[Steven P]

Not forgetting that Trump had a cosy behind closed doors one on one chat with Putin, often considered that Putin knows more about Trump than Trump knows about Putin, but also Trump can be read like a book a lot of the time. Says what he is thinking with no filters, priceless if you want to do a deal with him.

 

 

 

 

I know this won't be a mega popular idea, but said it before, the UK needs energy security - green energy is fastest to bring online, nuclear as a base load takes 25+ year (needs starting now), and taking away our reliance of foreign supplied oil and gas - considering that the foreign oil is controlled by the more interesting countries and leaders (Putin and Trump included there), and the known supplies are running down (could be a close thing, oil runs out or a meteor strike in 2032)

 

[GarethM]

9 minutes ago, Steven P said:

I know this won't be a mega popular idea, but said it before, the UK needs energy security - green energy is fastest to bring online, nuclear as a base load takes 25+ year (needs starting now).

Unfortunately that won't work, for every Kw of renewable you have to have the same in conventional sitting idle and burning fuel.

 

That's why you have gas power stations practically running 24/7 to smooth the supply and stop a rolling blackout, from a engineering and electricity supply it's better to not have wind and use solar locally.

 

I've said it many times we design/built and had magnox Calder Hall online in 3 years!.

[Steven P]

Yes, but modern UK planning and NIMBYs, nuclear power takes about a million years of local planning enquiries and objections. Think we all accept that reducing our reliance on overseas oil and gas is a good goal, and that North Sea oil and gas has a shortening limited lifespan. I know I was flippant about the meteor hitting us, but that would also just about coincide with a new nuclear plant if we pushed really really hard. Think we need to be working on that sooner rather than our kids having an "Oh Shit" moment when the gas and lights run out.

 

You won't like this bit but to utilise the green energy best, we need a transition to an electrical based society rather than a gas / oil based society - and that is going to mean electric boilers, heat pumps, cars and an equalisation of the tax on domestic energy (electricity in the UK (since this is POTUS thread, just thought I'd qualify that) is taxed at a higher rate than gas). Localised energy storage where appropriate (BESS systems or domestic 10-15kwh batteries).

 

As for local solar and wind, true, over the complete country a national strategy, distribution network, storage and control equalises differences to ensure an efficient system. That does mean we need to upgrade the infrastructure to move electrical power from generation to supply, it is a price I think we need to pay to help society transition and future proof for our children and theirs. Again better do it now rather than wait for the rest of the worlds 'Oh Shit' moment and their repowering driving the raw material prices higher still.

 

And where does this leave Trump (the current POTUS).... the US has about 5 years of proven oil and gas reserves - excluding shale gas which has an unproven quantity (could be a lot and a lot) - it is there and no one knows exactly how much, so Trump is OK, his oil paymasters will keep the dollars rolling in with shale gas... but like some in the UK and Europe, burying his head in the (shale) sand is not going to do his country any favours in the long term.

 

And then to link up a few threads, The Ukraine has large gas deposits, Greenland is suspected to have some but both have minerals that can be used to power the green energy future (batteries and so on). Might explain some of Trumps interest* in both countries - carving up the Ukraine gas reserves, and the potential from Greenland. Looking to the Iraq war, the US gained access to a lot of oil and gas from Kuwait off the back of that, going to defend a country and being paid in cheap oil is a proven strategy for the US.

 

 

Edity

* : When I say Trump, I really mean his advisors, I suspect he doesn't have the knowledge, interest or intellect to work out what his country needs, but some of the people he employs do.

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