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  • Article: Pollards, the forgotten art-discussion

    Po!la*d-a four letter word?

     

    One could be forgiven for thinking it is! I am almost afraid to mention the word in today’s arboricultural scene, but am I the only one who thinks it a little ironic that we now revere the very trees that where pruned in such a way we might now lynch those doing it? Is pollarding really to be considered the ultimate sin? Or is there just a lack of insight into the merits and de merits of each case, and a fear of retribution for going out on a limb and making the choice. At this time it’s a brave man that suggests “sensitive pruning” isn’t always the right approach. As a climber of 20 odd years I have done my fair share of old and veteran trees, and had to pollard (oops, blasphemy!) some for spurious reasons, not having been the one responsible for the job specification. If there is one thing I have gained through my successes and failures it is insight, a “feel” for the tree and its life from seed to senescence, its grace and ultimate glory as a grandfather of time.

    Thanks to the likes of Neville Fay and Ted green MBE the arb world is more enlightened on the whole subject of ancient trees and veteranisation, and the world seems to be awakening to a new understanding. We have come almost full circle, we grew a distain for harsh techniques and Hepting/ Shigo and others exposed the issues with poor pruning and treatments. A refined approach was born and some of us went on to become masters of the art in fine tip reductions in respect of this new knowledge. We stopped over lifting tree canopies and crucified the “over thinners” we mobbed the “purveyor’s of pollard”. While all this was going on a few of us “labourers” where reading up and taking notes, watching the debates and doing what we where told was the “best practice”.

     

    “I’m not suggesting we abandon this approach, preservation of amenity is a different game altogether”

     

     

    Now it is our turn to give some input to the debate, and I am certain there will be many “old school” climbers ready to join in. The one thing that is blindingly obvious to me is that very little respect is paid to the “experience factor” it is all well and good educating yourself and gaining a degree in arboriculture, but you can never learn from books what you learn by feel; and trees, though they may be the substance (paper) of text books, rarely are trees text book in nature. I mean no disrespect to the “consultants” but you really should pay more heed to the views and experience of climbers. The older climbers have a body of experience gained from a time when we just got on with it, rounding over, pollarding etc. We might never consider doing it these days but we know HOW to do it and how to do it well, skills that are being lost on a generation of climbers who only know the way it is today.

    What this will mean in a decade or two is that people with the very skills the veteran brigade seek to re learn will be lost, how hard can you prune? Where can we make that cut for the best compromise of vascular support and minimal dysfunction? Have we not learnt just how resilient trees can be? Decay and dysfunction are part and parcel of a trees old age, be that from natural progressive infections or via pruning wounds, they are the same end result so why fear them? I am sick to my teeth of being told I can not do this and I can not do that, when I have all my life proven time and time again that it CAN be done, but it has to be with “insight” I fear if we don’t settle the debate soon a whole gap will appear in the generations of veterans as the old ones die while we are all trying to “rediscover” the old ways. The Japanese have been “veteranising” for a thousand years, albeit on a different scale, the principles are the same. The art of producing a miniature ancient tree of visual stature and form is the same art required to recreate the ancient pollards and veterans of the medieval era. You just have to think BIG.

    I have seen some ridiculous attempts at re creating the pollard, and some pretty dire attempts at recession pruning, so bad in fact I doubt Mr X in his white transit with traces of tarmac could do a worse job! I can no longer remain silent walking the old deer parks and seeing trees unmulched unfenced and unloved, they are as much a part of our green and pleasant lands history as any building or monument yet they are left to fend for themselves much of the time despite all the current knowledge available. We need to re-evaluate the pollard fast and to think of pollarding as an option for those old trees considered for felling due to various defects, infections or even subsidence issues. I do not mean the way its done on LA budgets either for those thinking along those lines!

    Some people in the field are of the opinion that pollarding was carried out when the tree was young and while this may be true in today’s scene, it was certainly not the case in the medieval period or Tudor period. I am well aware that there exist few records of the pollarding of old. However the tree is a record of its life, it tells us like a book of a thousand pages what events took place in its life, and when. One only has to look at those old pollards of Burnham to see that pollarding was a brutal practice; the evidence is in the hollow centres. We only have to look at compartmentalisation to see how large the tree was when it was Pollarded. The now hollow stems are the new wood that formed over the dysfunctional core. While the living cambium continued to grow over the now dead part, the demons of D, death, decay and dysfunction (Shigo), moved in and had a tasty supper of lignin and/or cellulose.

    I think there was two ways possibly three of pollarding, and certain that Arborist’s of the time much like the good ones today had a “feel” for their art. I am certain that a tree that had previously been un-pollarded would have had the two major lower limbs left on and been decapitated above this point. This guaranteed that the tree would continue to grow and survive the loss of its head, like the “monarchs without head” a form that is made perfectly naturally. We have to realise that in those times text books where the preserve of the wealthy, these where craftsman whose skills where passed on to a new generation of apprentices. They also had the luxury of more trees to make mistakes with, if one or two died it was no big deal, it made good firewood! Today if we gambled with one of say three oaks on a site we would be justifiably lynched if they was to die from such a brutal practice.

    Now going back to the monarch without head, I am certain that once good re growth was established and of much more slender proportions the now only substantial wood left was also highly desirable and those limbs originally left in place where now cut back to some re growth on their length. I am certain it was this process that created those extraordinarily wide shoulders or “pollard heads” we now see especially in the Burnham beech trees. This is also evident in the way the decay columns extend into the larger thicker sections of these old pollard heads.

    This brings me to the whole demons of D thing again, and I think we need to understand these processes far better if we are to re create our heritage trees for future generations to revere. Its an area of heated debate, and an area that is still to this day largely misunderstood and understudied. I hope to convince the sceptical of the role fungi play in the longevity of trees; this is a co evolutionary process that has gone on for millennia. I have a disdain for the word attack when it comes to fungi, and prefer to think of it as taking advantage of a situation. As with all natural organisms and systems they have a role and a purpose, they are essential and should not be viewed as an “enemy”

     

    I think there may have been a time in history, and not so long ago, when mans activities actualy enhanced Bio diversity, rather than eliminated it. We are losing our way, its time to re think our strategies.

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    only rich folk can be organic and green in this country. It all comes down to money, if you want to live in a hut and cook your dinner over a fire in the garden then you can afford to be a woodsman, have no holidays and probably have arthritis by the time you are 45, and dont expect to be able to afford a grandsworth of ppe just to wear to work everyday. I think you are dreaming a bit tbh, i dont want to work a saw or axe 10 hrs a day, i like my warm house and good standard of life, i can make more hedge cutting 6 months a year than you will ever earn pottering about a wood i reckon..

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    only rich folk can be organic and green in this country. It all comes down to money, if you want to live in a hut and cook your dinner over a fire in the garden then you can afford to be a woodsman, have no holidays and probably have arthritis by the time you are 45, and dont expect to be able to afford a grandsworth of ppe just to wear to work everyday. I think you are dreaming a bit tbh, i dont want to work a saw or axe 10 hrs a day, i like my warm house and good standard of life, i can make more hedge cutting 6 months a year than you will ever earn pottering about a wood i reckon..

     

    I aint so sure, its all about making the very most of your products really, imagine if I was to fell an oak for subsidance tommorow, and was charging 1500 quid to fell and remove all arrisings.

     

    so i am up, got the money for two days, so lets get a saw mill round the back, cut some planks store em for a while, and oh thats a nice burr well lets put an advert on e bay some bowl carver will have that.

     

    or lets winch that walnut root out they will have that for rifle butts etc etc etc

     

    it just requires imagination, look what these boys do with a carving tip! awsome stuff

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    pollards are a great

     

    tbh i have only read a few pages of this thread, but heres my opinions.

     

    i would like to see a scheme where a goverment body/charity like EN, FC or simmilar pay for privatly owned woodlands that have been previously managed for produce, to continue to be managed in their traditional way, coppice inside, layed hedges, pollards on boundarys ect. imo, the native woodland produce stuff, inc charcoal, firewood, and woodland furniture could be sold to help contribute towards the cost of the management, and being labled FC, EN, EH, RSPB ect, you could put an aditional premium on the product, just because its been labled/endorsed by these type of orginations

     

    the ecological benifits of a managed woodland could be a great asset to the english countryside, habitat piles out of the unusable brush, gaping big holes in old pollards, thick dense native hedges oozing with berries

     

    yes you do have to be imaginative with re using wood, it can even be done in the urban enviroment. took down a small POLLARDED! contorted willow yesterday, kept the brash, took it to a florists, pocketed 50 quid, theyll re-use it for decorations. a modern twist on pollard produce perhaps?

     

    as for a band of self certified high calibre arbs doing free tree work. . . . . . :001_rolleyes::001_smile:

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    I am still waiting for the really "crafty" types to add, they are bound to have some little gems of information, certain aspects of wood that they seek etc?

     

    when was spalted wood first used? i bet it was desirable a long long time ago

     

    here is a bowl I made out of a rotten piece of spalted Elm.

    Someone sees rubbish I see opportunity.

     

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    Nice bowl.

    I think the way to go to would be to go down the line of the ancient crafts route, the pollard is and ancient craft like willow weaving and basketry, there is a few grants out there if you own or manage woodlands from the FC, and there is groups out there that are trying to promote and educate people and the goverment about the need to keep the legacy of incient skills and crafts alive for future generations. this might be of use or not?

     

    Heritage Crafts Association

     

    http://www.forestry.gov.uk/forestry/infd-6dcebl

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    only rich folk can be organic and green in this country. It all comes down to money, if you want to live in a hut and cook your dinner over a fire in the garden then you can afford to be a woodsman, have no holidays and probably have arthritis by the time you are 45, and dont expect to be able to afford a grandsworth of ppe just to wear to work everyday. I think you are dreaming a bit tbh, i dont want to work a saw or axe 10 hrs a day, i like my warm house and good standard of life, i can make more hedge cutting 6 months a year than you will ever earn pottering about a wood i reckon..

     

    So very true, it is only the rich who can afford to live and promote the organic and green life style, they are the trust fund lobbyist elite, only wealth can create this way of thinking, poverty provides no time for this train of thought, poverty only provides misery.

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    I agree with the crafts route and modern twist on pollard products, thats what i have been doing.. look at my website. BUT it costs, and as stevie says only rich people can be green / organic in this country. Until there is a change from the 'lets get it delivered to the door by tescos' rather than use the local shop then we are doomed, well not doomed but it is a very neiche market, and one that takes a lot of effort to work.

    And its about education - people we work for need to know that to 'tree- cycle ' their tree into a peice of furniture is an option. Most dont know it can be done, cos the tree man wants the wood for his log delivery. The amount of people that enjoy the fact that the tree can been re used is up to us.. but it will only be the wealthy ones that can take it on board IMO. Councils etc should and could, we have done work that helped their crediability no end, but more could be done..

     

    What if councils or contract managers had to be more aware of what happens to the 'waste', if they could get some new benchs for a park, or play stuff for a school, THAT is the future, then you can start doing URBAN pollarding and the likes, as people will see that the produce has been used and then they will get the picture.. :001_smile: IMO !!

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    You don't have to be rich to have an allotment and grow a few veg or keep a few chooks, or go foraging in the woods or fish the coast

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    I aint so sure, its all about making the very most of your products really, imagine if I was to fell an oak for subsidance tommorow, and was charging 1500 quid to fell and remove all arrisings.

     

    so i am up, got the money for two days, so lets get a saw mill round the back, cut some planks store em for a while, and oh thats a nice burr well lets put an advert on e bay some bowl carver will have that.

     

    or lets winch that walnut root out they will have that for rifle butts etc etc etc

     

    it just requires imagination, look what these boys do with a carving tip! awsome stuff

     

    I think many of the members here do look at all avenues re: "waste" disposal. Loggable material is logged, many plank decent timber from butts, or source a buyer, carvers carve, turners turn, and chip is sold for pellet fuel. It maybe a new take on an old theme, but it is out there, and it is growing, maybe through necessity to turn a penny when pruning work is slack, maybe to make a bigger profit, or simply to buy a couple of pints down the pub. None of this is anything new, and even lads who've just come from college enjoy trying selling a product made with their hands and a few tools.

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