Logsnstuff
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try reading my post above where I said I don't want government involved which I believe is inevitable but to what degree depends on how many rogue traders are left out there trading quite happily because others won't do anything, so imo they should be weeded out. I want to point out that the topic was end of firewood so I assumed it was intended for some ideas to change that course not an argument because an idea is put forward. twist it turn it and come up with an alternative that might be of use to someone instead of just wanting to attack. I know forestry boomed under thatcher, it's booming now under coalition the tories being in westminster not necessarily bad for the forest industry.
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I'm at nothing simply having a discussion, your the one jumping in with both feet if someone says something you don't like which is pretty much everything, maybe you should try engaging your brain instead of your mouth because they clearly can't work together. I'm guessing your IQ is single digits as your incapable of understanding that my post is a desire that we fix issues so big brother isn't involved, you have a chip on your shoulder which is your problem not mine.
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so in otherwords things wont improve until government regulates the business, as demonstrated by the responses here self regulation won't happen so it will have to be imposed.
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I have no problem with people not agreeing with me just the way the write it. what they all forget is this was started as a suggestion but was immediatly turned into I was shopping everyone left right and centre and if you look back only 1 or 2 people bothered to take note that I was uncommfortable with the idea of doing it myself. if you come at me aggressivly face to face or in writting im going to respond in kind.
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em I guess you also didn't read my sales are up this year on last seems to be common thread in this to only read 50% of what I say. did I contact hmrc ofc not I went to my bed. would people care if I shopped anyone locally no is the answer I guess we move in different circles. as it seems I'm not allowed to challenge any of the statements made to me only answer them I guess this topic is exhausted.
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unfortunately for us were out of range need about 300 mtr so hopefully as things improve we will be able to go this route in the future.
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what's useless and malicious? take a look through the posts on this forum not just this particular topic people openly admitting to selling for some beer money imo beer money is undeclared money maybe you see it differently that's your prerogative, a malicious report would be to send in someone's details you know to be honestly trading. what's wasting time in reporting people cheating the system? as to what they would do with this forum I doubt very much they would even look at it, but see how fast it silenced these honest people.
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I didnt't intend my part of the discussion to be limited just to log sales but more general practice. I didn't get a chance to comment on the posts that undeclared earnings doesn't necessarily mean tax avoidance but it will most likely then come into benefits fraud but someone else can take up that topic if they feel like it I have work to do.
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ye, he was just after logs. could maybe put signs up with a couple of dummy cameras in the open to take the abuse.
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so you were sort of on my side but scared of doobin and his clique of trolls? or why did you wait to speak out until it was against me. for 12-14hrs and over god knows how many pages I think it pretty pathetic only 2 people willing to risk the wrath of the bully boys on here and agree evaders should be shopped.
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try going verticle splitter before processor if your not sure, you can split 10 cube a day with one of those and no worries about trying to get straight cord. think global recycling with the multitek posted they hire a processor maybe think about this route and see how you get on. to get the best from a processor your going to need a log deck and something to load it with it's not just buy the machine and off you go 20 cube a day unless you have some pretty fit guys feeding it.
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fair enough you want me to do something so I have sent this forum to hmrc and asked them to take a look at the posts maybe now you will be happy.
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not really I'm just mindful that what I put here can be read by anyone and as has been mentioned I still have machinery which could be vandalised so I've tried to be a little careful in what I have said. something the posts about selling for beer money should have considered before posting.
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shame can't just use a 12 bore. getting them nicked is my worry also especially if you put in phone cards. you can get steel boxes to place them in but I need some convincing especially when you need 4-6 of them to cover most of the yard. spoke to DK Logs he was getting his diesel knicked eventually caught the guy on camera turned out was some travellers down the road he called the police took them 2 days to turn up by then guy had done a runner.
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you should try reading everything it's not the fact they were dealing only in cash it was the fact they then said nobody knows how much they sell. thats the bit which implies they are fiddling it's not a guarantee they are dodgy but they implied it. I have already told you several times I haven't reported anyone and this was started because of the people further back complaining they couldn't sell any logs and were packing it in, my sales are up on last year, I was mearly giving an opinion on an option they should consider, I do believe the dislike of the idea expressed here is very telling on how you are operating your businesses way too much aggression imo for you not to be dodging a bit.
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anyone using trailcams for security, caught a thief this afternoon but can't decide which to buy. any recommendations. thinking along the lines of Buy Spypoint Mini Live and Mini Live 4G Cellular wildlife camera trap - shop at suppliers Scott Country
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I can be certain because I have spoken to some who have said they will only take cash that way nobody knows how much they sell that's a pretty clear point they are fiddling. didn't think you would need something so obvious to be written down you should be able to work this kind of thing out for yourself.
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only reason I would now consider it is the fact they burned the forwarder already which obviously was the most expensive item we had. the fact the fire extinguishers were removed makes us believe it's someone with experience in forestry/firewood or machinery sales unlikely we will ever find out although police reckon it's a rival merchant. rest of the machinery is getting old and not that valuable
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you don't need facts if you choose to you can report suspicion about everyone it's HMRC who will find the facts. it's down to your conscience I personally would only report people I was certain were doing it and as the couple of people I know were evading have stopped with logs I don't have to all I said was I've reached my limit for ignoring it because it's impacting my sales in a big way now.
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you make your own mind up depends what you see and hear what I might decide makes me think someone is on the fiddle isn't necessarily what you would think and vice versa. in some cases they will tell you if you happen to speak to them a lot of people think it's quite acceptable, just look at the posts today because I suggested people should consider it.
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thats the attitude which means nothing will change, you can make it hard for the beer money guys instead of sitting back with this apathetic attitude.
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selling for cash not declaring the tax.
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you seem desperate for an argument, for 1 thing I said there was no need for me to report people down south as you don't impact me, that's for others around you to do if necessary and if your running legitimately then why would anyone need to report you, as long as your paying your tax on your sales I doubt anyone cares what your doing.
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