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Draw a circle 100 km with a compass with your base at the centre Do any driving inside that circle and its exempt as long as the rest of the exemption is met

I must have mis-read your post = sorry

That letter has absolutely nothing to do with tacho or licencing laws That letter simply explains that a vehicle with a GTW of say 5000 can have a GVW of 3500 and a trailer MAM of 3500 but the actual combined loaded weight is restricted to 5000

DEPENDS IF AN EXEMPTION APPLIES http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/ALL/;ELX_SESSIONID=z1QnJjrPyLwRDqMRw6pzfTS0pvf1nQ2nhWsJJrkNv1mf6BhJfYXF!164623754?uri=CELEX:32006R0561 Article 13 (d) vehicles or combinations of vehicles with a maximum permissible mass not exceeding 7,5 tonnes used: for carrying materials, equipment or machinery for the driver's use in the course of his work. These vehicles shall be used only within a 50 (SOON TO BE 100) kilometre radius from the base of the undertaking, and on condition that driving the vehicles does not constitute the driver's main activity;

If the vehicle had a plated GVW of 2500 kg and the caravan had a plated MTPLM of 1000 then yes it would be legal for a B licence

As you have C1+E that means you also must have B+E so yes you can supervise a B+E learner subject to the usual rules for learner and supervisor

On the caravan usually near the door is the weight plate and that will show the MTPLM weight which is the MAM weight in the same way that the weight plate on the vehicle shows the GVW which is the MAM weight As the vehicle MAM is over 2750 kg then the max MAM for the caravan or trailer is 750 kg for B towing Plated weights are used for licencing not actual weights

Ford RANGER Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW) | Van leasing made simple Max caravan plated MTPLM 750 kg

I am a current IAM observer (since 1998) and was a LGV instructor (2005 to 2008) Since not having work for a number of years I got interested in the weights and licencing laws as well as the regs for LGV drivers

Found this see page 14 = https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/208103/ins57p.pdf

All B licence holders have B+E provisional on the paper part of their licence and can tow an empty or loaded trailer on all roads including motorways. What a good question My info is from what is officially written on the internet (Gov sites) as well as confirming any 'not so clear' points by Emailing my MP who gets me the definitive answers from the DfT minister I also have recent ex-police traffic officers and recent ex-VOSA who can assist me

The B+E test has changed quite a bit over the last 2 years so here is the current version ...... The B+E test No medical or theory test required Read a number plate from a certain distance VIDEO - Show Me Tell Me Questions - usually 5 asked = [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqw6Ua3kmFc&feature=related]Show Me Tell Me Questions and Answers For The UK Driving Test - YouTube[/ame] The next three can be in any order:- VIDEO - Reversing Exercise = B+E Trailer reversing excercise videos - done in test centre grounds if test conducted from practical test centre - some tests are now being done from training school grounds DSA REVERSING TEST AREA DIAGRAM = https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/68791/LGV_PCV_BE_manoeuvring_exercise_area_diagram.pdf VIDEO - Uncouple/couple up = [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao_5KOe8dGg&feature=related]How to de-couple & re-couple a small trailer - YouTube[/ame] - done in test centre grounds if test conducted from practical test centre - some tests are now being done from training school grounds One hour road drive - includes the independent drive and is done virtually the same as the basic car test The trailer must now be loaded with 600 kgs of sand bags or a 1000 kgs water IBC for the test so most companies are now training with that weight in the trailer = https://www.gov.uk/new-laden-testing-rules-for-driving-test-vehicles Well explained here = Trailer Training Wales taking the B+E Test DISCLAIMER - I have no connection to any companies which may be featured in those videos This is interesting BUT NOT RECOMMENDED – a B licence towing set up can be presented for the B+E test but L plates must be used for the test that means you can train yourself, go to test by yourself, fit L plates, do the test, then, pass or fail, remove L plates and drive away by yourself. DSA B+E TEST AND VEHICLE/TRAILER REQUIREMENTS = http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/DriverLicensing/CaravansTrailersCommercialVehicles/DG_4022521 Remember that the required 600 kgs of sand bags or 1 x 1000 IBC filled with water will be required in the trailer and the load must be secure.

What licence will the driver have? - B+E?

Most things are simple - its the way they are written which often makes them seem complicated and does not help when the authorities leave the old rules for public view Here are the simple driving licence towing rules ...... These rules apply to all B and B+E category drivers no matter when the test was passed B category Vehicle not more than 3500 kg plated GVW B category towing A trailer of 750 kg max plated MAM may be towed by a B category vehicle making a possible total plated MAM of 4250 kg If a trailer over 750 kg plated MAM is towed by a B category vehicle then the plated GVW of the vehicle added to the plated MAM of the trailer (MTPLM of a caravan) must not total more than 3500 kg B+E category Towing a trailer with a B category vehicle where the trailer is not over 3500 kg plated MAM To tow a trailer over 3500 kg plated MAM the category needed is C1+E

Correct - that is perfectly legal

pre 1997 C1+E has a 107 code which restricts the driver to a total plated MAM weight of 8250 kg Examples 7.5 tonne GVW with 750 kg plated MAM trailer 6.0 tonne GVW + 2250 kg plated MAM trailer 4.5 tonne GVW + 3.750 kg plated MAM trailer

SUPERVISING A B+E LEARNER In April 2010 new rules were introduced for those supervising certain learner drivers but they only affected those supervising VOCATIONAL categories such as C1 C1+E D1 & D1+E where the supervising driver had those categories given to them for free when they passed a pre 1997 car test. They do not affect those with a pre 1997 B+E licence who wish to supervise a B+E learner. All B licence holders have B+E provisional on the paper part of their licence and can tow an empty or loaded trailer on all roads including motorways. The usual rules apply when a learner is driving - The supervising driver must be aged over 21 The supervising driver must have held a B+E licence for at least 3 years L plates must be fitted to the front of the vehicle and the rear of the trailer Correct insurance for a B+E learner The supervising driver does not need to be insured unless they are driving

These rules apply to all B and B+E category drivers no matter when the test was passed B category Vehicle not more than 3500 kg plated GVW B category towing A trailer of 750 kg max plated MAM may be towed by a B category vehicle making a possible total plated MAM of 4250 kg If a trailer over 750 kg plated MAM is towed by a B category vehicle then the plated GVW of the vehicle added to the plated MAM of the trailer (MTPLM of a caravan) must not total more than 3500 kg B+E category Towing a trailer with a B category vehicle where the trailer is not over 3500 kg plated MAM To tow a trailer over 3500 kg plated MAM the category needed is C1+E

This is for B only licence - no B+E A 3500 GVW transit can tow a 750 kgs MAM trailer The vehicle and trailer have their own individual weight limits which means in the above the transit can actually weight 3500 when loaded and the trailer can weigh 750 kgs when loaded making a max MAM of 4250 which is legal for a B licence The 3500 total MAM limit comes into force when the trailer is more than 750 kgs MAM Any vehicle with a GVW of less than 2750 kgs can have a trailer more than 750 kgs MAM Example Vehicle GVW 2600 Trailer MAM 900 GVW and MAM mean the same thing - the max weight they can legally be when fully loaded

A couple of things changed on 19/01/2013 For all B licence towing of a trailer over 750 kgs MAM the one simple extra rule is now just Vehicle GVW added to trailer MAM must not total more than 3500 kgs The kerb weight rules has been revoked For those that pass both B and B+E after 19/01/2013 - they are restricted to trailers of no more than 3500 kgs MAM which will affect virtually nobody !

Better still - call the DSA DCPC hotline on 0191 201 8112

I see If only driving LGVs privately then no dcpc required unless under age 21 and driving a LGV over 7.5 tonnes

Medical is needed for both private and commercial What do you mean by HIRE ?

Passing any LGV +E test will give B+E for life All B licence drivers have the B+E provisional on the paper part of their licence so no theory etc required for the B+E test If you only need to tow a 3500 max MAM trailer then finding the right B category vehicle which will do that and passing the B+E test is the easiest and cheapest option

To add - If this is for commercial use then you will need the driver cpc as well To get LGV C1 for commercial use .... D4 medical = about £50 ... much more and you have been ripped off D2 form - tick C & D only = covers you medically for all categories Visit your preferred LGV training school before parting with any money Modules to pass - 1a theory 1b HPT 2 dcpc theory 3 practical road drive, reverse and un/couple if +E test 4 practical dcpc