MWArb

Kevin you make some good points.. we have introduced an in house leadership quali that sorts the students with those qualities.

Agreed, I believe colleges, schools and employers need a collective approach.. supply outstrips demand by far. Is this an issue that's come from a lack of governing body? A Corgi if you will.. someone to stop people with 2 weeks training starting a company.. or working without a need for minimum requirements?

Does this fall on the college system? or NPTC and Lantra themselves... are tickets too easy? Is competence not enough? Students working for peanuts to gain exp is just cheap labor and a minimum wage issue no? I feel the lines between "work experience" and "employment" need amending... do you all agree or are you just as responsible for the cheap labor culture?

I have no issue with fairly newly qualified staff teaching the very basics (I myself came into instructing only 3 years after leaving college.. got to start somewhere and experience isn't everything.. Potential has to be recognised), lets face it they're probably more "current" than most of us regarding best practice and more than that every video I see online shows things outside best practice! However I agree that they should be closely monitored by experienced staff both in teaching and practically, and that site experience is key to learning. Should we go back to forced work placement? or apprenticeships? All students are required to find "work experience" however I fear most just get to pull brash.. I can get them doing that at college, how do they get a chance to work/climb without the productivity issue costing employers money/time?

ok, this is good stuf guys.. Would you say then that Colleges in general are trying to teach too many things in to short a space of time? example: Forestry and Arboriculture courses... should it be one or the other? Funding issues.. in the UK here we're unfortunately no longer able to get funding for adult learners, this as you can imagine is making the pool of students younger and therefore "less grown up" for want of a better term, is this going to become an issue? how to keep students in the system.. part of this discussion has to fall on the students themselves and indeed their employers... I hear all day long that they "just wanna get on and do the job" or "why can't I do all my tickets in 2 months and be done with it"... or from employers (this one I see far too often) "just do it this way" or "forget that health and safety nonsense just get it done" How do you think the industry helps or hinders such an approach?

Hi Guys I'm looking to ask you all as professionals what it is you look for in the next generation. Obvious answers are tickets, underpinning knowledge and work ethic... but... I'm trying to understand how to best prepare future students/workers for our ever changing industry and I figure there's no better place then Arbtalk to find out what each part of our industry is looking for. So, if you could spare a minute of your time please state the work you do and what exactly you'd like your new apprentices to be able to do and what you think they should know. I look forward to your reply Many thanks Martyn - MWArb

Ah I'm in a kask so although it goes in the clips the eyes pull upward even only in the back clips

That could be worth lookin in to.. I did like the glasses but by the time I hit 30ft I couldn't see, reckon that was only a few weeks after purchase too which dissapointed me. Maybe they don't fit my face.. had that with sunnys before.

Tried them Adam had and found the anti fog wore out.. just got my hands on them safe eyes, wore for a small chipping job and loved em.. can't wait to climb in them. Dan how do you wear yours? Strapped to lid or just on your head underneath lid?

Thats it in a nutshell really isn't it.. the longer the saw is on the market the more changes/improvements they make and hey presto "best saw ever" starts to get spoken.. bet everyone that had a 020 was cursing the 200t when it first came out.. times change, saws change, Arborists should change... but don't haha

Eddie, we had a staff meeting at college yesterday and our top lady said something that struck home and I think it may apply here too... She was talking about adult funding but principles the same, she was saying there's no point lobbying government as there money is set, she is talking with the shadow cabinet because they are looking to the public for votes and ideas, changes happen more effectively during election times.. could be worth a shot.. play both the long and short game.

How have the government not seen this as a health and safety issue.. surely emissions and personal health should be top billing in parliament

Well the 200 or so we added is good stuff but as with arbsafe I can't help but feel that dispite the consistant calls for things like arbsafe and aspen the arbtalk community as a whole is very slow to embrace them a little disappointed here to be honest.

Stubby, can you do a before and after cut on timber.. perhaps timed to see what the improvement is?

I think from now on every question on atbtalk should only be answered in exchange for a signature :eek:

Ok so next questions....how much? Any dealer?

Great idea

There must be at least a few more arbtalkers that'd sign up:confused1:.. Come on guys help a fellow arb out

That looks like an odd tool.

Adding the new blower later today.. this site is what we've all been moaning about for ages now... Steve has filled what we all saw as a void in looking after fellow arbs and their kit and I'm gobsmaked that so few have signed up.

I love aspen, my saws love aspen, my health loves aspen and best of all I get the coolest combi can

Can't work out if people are no bothering to help or if arbtalk is half empty..

It only takes a second to sign up and if you dont want the extra mail just tag it as spam so it'll never bother you again.. I honestly can't believe most people wont sign just because they can't be bothered

Think it counts email addresses

Does that count? I'll spend a day and sign all 10000 in that case