Tony Croft aka hamadryad

good question!

is the selective delignification an early stage though? with more complete degradation later?

I have cometo a realisation that I have been not quite getting "IT" as in NI, but im still learning, loving this piece from Alan! Univanity A song of definitive abstraction and its remedy By Alan Rayner I know where I stand At the top of this heap My pyramid of numbers With me alone At the top . A wholesome wholeness Complete in every way Superior to all my parts That make me up As a divine construction Knowing it All By Being Above It All . Yet, not having a clue About what it means To become In the thick of it all . Doh! . I seem to have forgotten What love means Perhaps I’d better Take a look around myself Then feel my way inside my self To find out why it really hurts To be this way Then, let my self breathe again . Sigh! . The ‘univanity’ alluded to by the above poem is an intransigent belief in the supremacy and completeness of individual or group as an ‘absolute independent singleness’ or ‘wholeness’. It thoroughly permeates modern thought and culture and is characteristic of both ‘individualism/reductionism’ and ‘collectivism/holism’. It is embedded in all forms of definitive abstraction – philosophical, mathematical, scientific, theological – that envisage the numerical figure of ‘One’ to be a discrete entity, ‘on its own’. It is neither consistent with our sensory experience of natural energy flow, nor can it make consistent sense. But it does lead to the exclusion or suffocation of human creativity, love and variety, as well as profound social, psychological and environmental conflict and harm through the pursuit of definitive knowledge as a source of power. As I have put it elsewhere:- Knowledge without Love is Power without Wisdom - Fearful Vanity that commits crimes against humanity and Nature. BestThinking / Articles / Society & Humanities / Philosophy / Power, Love, Vanity and Humility (Article) Yet the pursuit of knowledge alone has, since the so-called ‘Enlightenment’, increasingly led to ‘Institutionalized Univanity’. Correspondingly, it seems that most modern universities have become Institutions of Univanity, licensed to impoverish creative thought through having discarded their poetic licence in favour of money and kudos But they’re not alone! For thousands of years we have been ramming univanity down our own throats, reinforcing it in our educational, political and religious institutions and ideologies, without recognizing how and why we do this, in spite of our selves. We have needlessly been hardening or removing what is needed to distinguish and nurture ‘ego’ as unique local self-identity in order to brutalize this into the abusive ‘egotism’ of individual or collective entireties. Univanity is virtually impossible to remedy without profound mental breakdown or breakthrough, because it is by definition singularly unaware of its actual situation IN Nature, and hence unaware of the needless conflict and suffering that it induces. It is convinced of its own virtue and beneficence, thereby attributing all blame for harm elsewhere, by means of psychological projection. It views all questioning of its foundational premises as an unwarranted violation of its integrity, from which it defends itself by means of an exclusive and paradoxical wall of self-definition. Anyone who does question its premises is disregarded as ‘mad, bad and dangerous to know’ (except in so far as they may agree with its premises, in which case they may be disregarded as ‘having nothing new to add’). No doubt, my calling it ‘Univanity’ will be regarded as an ‘insult’. Such is the difficulty of politely alerting Univanity to its own intransigence and harmfulness: one way or another it will find an excuse to take offence and/or ignore the point that is being made. The 'hole point' of the fluid boundary logic of natural inclusionality is to move on from the 'univanities' of 'whole ways of thinking' that base themselves on the definitive completeness of individual or group, to a dynamic 'hole new way' way of thinking, where space is acknowledged to be a continuous intangible presence and boundaries are appreciated as energetic interfacings of inner and outer 'holeyness' or 'hollowness'. This corresponds in turn with the move from an idealist (abstract) vision of a 'hole' as an 'absence of presence' or 'gap/discontinuity IN the fabric(ation) of everything' and an authentic (natural) vision of a dynamically bounded locality OF space as intangible presence everywhere, without limit. This natural inclusional move is commensurate with the vision of Robert Frost in his statement: “Nature does not complete things... Man must finish, and he does so by making a garden and building a wall" It is also a fundamentally different transformational move from the simple recurrent exchange of one kind of 'univanity' or 'partial truth' (e.g. reductionism – which fragments natural energy flow) for another (e.g. holism – which suffocates natural energy flow) depending on what is 'in vogue' "Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor." - Robert Frost, The Black Cottage Here it is vital to appreciate that natural inclusionality (NI) seeks to TRANSFORM the ‘Pride and Prejudice’ of Univanity into a more sensitive and sensible understanding of our human place in Nature. It does not seek to eradicate and replace what has preceded it, but to learn and evolve from it in a creative and sustainable way. Hence: NI doesn't preclude conventional arithmetic or reasoning but transforms the meaning of its answers Most fundamentally, NI recognizes that One is never all one alone; one dynamically includes and is included in the infinite space of Agape (deep Love). Now, what could actually be so mad, bad and dangerous to know about that?

Have a look at this website regarding some ancient olives, truly amazing species and a site I must visit one day. I had believed the bristle cones and the english yew where the true kings of longevity, would seem however, that olives too are all powerful. https://www.facebook.com/groups/215243588563980/259471324141206/?notif_t=group_activity

you know a proper arb is about when they say a medium sized oak, which it is, but not to most! Many would call that a big tree!

took some time to find this video, stamets has spoken of this trip a few times and I so wanted to find this footage! In the future, trees and fungi will be taken much more seriously, we will farm the ecologies with great care and attention, and trees and fungi will once more be revered and loved rather than abused and taken for granted. but that will only be possible if we do not lose the old growth before it can happen! Mushroom Man // Current TV

and what of it? I also consulted collins complete guide to british insects, its what we do when we do not know! The important thing is to be able to answer, how one finds the answer is immaterial, the answer was found in 5 minutes.

Ironicly these are rosemary beetles!(Chrysolina americana) Really really nice find, thanks for sharing

sweet find sloth! will have a root about!

Your groundy is worth his wieght dude, I an see why you went away and re jigged that! sweetly done. If I had to pick one nit, it would be that this is a lot of wood impacting on rootplates of retained trees. What we have done in the past is dump a 7.5 tonners worth of chip into a drop zone to take the brunt out of these drops. just something that in this scenario would have been a consideration for me, otherwise, top draw, knarly tree dude!

I dont think any TO would argue over this!

get it down! Phaeolus is a brown rotter and a principal failure for pines, cedars and larches, to be fruiting from both sides of the tree, and a lean already, which may well have been a partial shift due to the decay!

your preaching to the converted mycoman, but glad you said it.

Not digging you out rob, this is advice! 1) when opportunity presents shorten lever arm, not just take of a parralel branch to bring in the profile. 2) every reduction is being done for a reason, establish the reasons in the case your dealing with and work to THAT purpose because if we dont we end up without achieving the result the complaint maker is expecting, complaints will only remain and the tree owner sees it as a nuisance sometime in the future too, and fells it! depending on the objective I would say youve taken very little from the profile or density, and wasted an oportunity to establish a smaller framework Some portions or limbs you have reduced to the drop crotch method, others the reduction by thin, this can make it look a little "confused" I normaly wouldnt say anything, but I suspect you would want to know:001_smile:

what what! on me way:biggrin:

I can imagine a few decades from now pollarding being an everyday event, servicing the biofuel plants around the country with the "waste" managing trees in the urban context as well this way, just run with it, we used to and have a tree heritage to die for because of it.

nice one, good job.

both and more:thumbup: im planting several this spring, an oak an ash and a beech in my garden, we need them everywhere. though I am thinking large plantations of managed pollards, as both provision of bio fuels and increasing biodiversity, two main goals in one.

youll remember this or recognise it from earlier, this the final prune to set the frame.

I had to as well! yes it does, pines yes, obviously its not that fussy:thumbup:

My boss told me he had seen a big beech failure not a million miles from home, but in the opposite direction to home, so been waiting for an early finish. It was indeed a fine failure and well worth the trip. As we can see there is intense white rot , the fungi in this case is I suspect Ganoderma australe, but what we also see in attendance is kretzschmaria deusta in a vein of dysfunction that extended right up into the stem and probably an old dead root trace back to a long dead limb. From my short investigation I deduced that this pocket had been completley rotted out by Kretzschmaria deusta complete with psuedosclerotial plates walling off the gano that had colonised all but a thin band of sapwood (T/R was over the limits by a long chalk) Only when the vitality had been compromised by this invasive and very agressive Gano species had the kretzschmaria found a way into new volumes and one can see the defined zones and the clear division between the hard brittle (soft rot) via the Kretzschmaria and the ductile failure in the white (simaltaneous rot) Ganoderma. This one really got my juices flowing!

on pinus sylvestris? do they associate? potentialy then

Ted is a leg-end aint he! always a good crack with Ted, I wish I could spend more time with him, I love his banter:thumbup: Got a nice pollard, a proper working firewood pollard from the urban context, a rare thing but on the increase again especialy in the town fringes. I can see it happening all over again, and it fills my heart with joy, in a few more years chip and gassification boilers will be normal, and trees wil once again be worked as we had done for so many centuries before. I had intended to give up practical arboriculture, but now im not so sure, I may diversify my business and offer planting and management of sustainable pollards for fuel. Some of us are old enough to still know how to do it properly!

its about time robarb did some big trees!

In the u.k I would ad ash and sycamore to that list, let these wild pioneers return the site to nature, what they do best:thumbup1: