Tony Croft aka hamadryad

So we need to adress structural integrity, the drop crotch method will be the way forward, if the limbs are decayed anyway it wont do any harm. As Paul said rhizosphere work is the ultimate answer to this in the long term, but structural faults must be dealt with and sounds like it is retrenching/dying back anyway so nothing the tree is not prepared for anyway biologicaly speaking.

a species that does not like heavy handed pruning, 2 inch diameter cuts max I assume its Q. rubra?

any time after october really till march, wherabouts are you DGB?

then he is going to be a fine climber with some exerience the speed will come too:thumbup1:

Lol, thats a sign that one is becoming a knowledgable chap, that something so rare inspires one to go a rooting about. thanks, been meaning to buzz him for ages about the new Trogiis too.

no, but I should, have you got his mail? seem to have neglected to add to contacts. The pores are distinctly larger than usual, its a diferent thing to my eye thats for certain, kept a voucher anyhow. i knew it was off the normal radar. and thanks for going to that effort!

Cut back anythingoff at this line but ensure all cuts have at the least a leaf bud, or better still a good growth point, give it 3 years then look to reduce again as the growth comes from further down trace the crown back with it. this is basically retrenchment pruning but in this case restorative or corrective pruning. Dont worry in this case regarding the inner trunk, it is hollowing anyway and will happen with or without pruning as th basal decay goes upward, or leave the tree be and eventualy lose it through a structural failure. I hope this helps if not keep asking happy to help:thumbup1:

nice and natural, great shape too, TP 200 is a great chipper aint it.

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blanket generalisation:sneaky2: a very sad situation, my thoughts go to the families and the survivor

im going to go as well, see you up there:thumbup1:

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It looks worse than it is, the tree is healthy, it just has cavitation which is perfectly normal in an old apple with pruning wounds. I would suggest over the next few years pruning it back hard bit by bit, year on year to force those lower shoots to develop and make a lower easier to manage tree that will cope with the cavity for many many decades yet. If you prune this hard back in the winter, youll lose a fair bit of fruit for 2 years but the lower shooting will mean later youll be able to cut the whole top off and maintain it as a lower form and more stable. safer for you too as working on it with its current form over the cavity isnt that great!

Bulgaria iquinans appears to be the most likely candidate for the canker, but im not entirely happy with that assertion. But it will suffice, symptoms similar, cause and effect.

Interesting, just the kind of thing i get motivated over! You have a massive rib formation at arrow 2, suggests either a dead zone beside it or a deep crack in the stem being compensated for, supect dead area of cambium directly besides it. What i believe is happening is that a strip/canker type situation is creating dead sections of the circumferential area and the healthy chanells through the zones are growing activley hence the deformations. The tree is cleary in a lot of bother and will be decaying before long behind these stip cankers. ive just dug one of my big reference books out thats not seen daylight for a long time, shall return and give you a suspect for arrow 1:thumbup1: thanks for the post

Gibbons right, and this threads really made me feel a lot better about my situation. As a freelance I'm £150 a day with my own rigging kit and saw climbing kit etc, top notch gear in good as new order, I wouldnt work any other way. I am very experienced so like Gibbon, a few of us can and do charge more than average. The guys I do work for (my fulltime boss excluded!) Know whatever the job, it will be done quick, be done safe, and it will be done in a day no questions, that takes a long time and a lot of effort to build up that level of trust and skill. Personally I still feel I am too cheap, and I am, its not enough to cover the true costs involved in the gear, the fuel and maintenance and upkeep of good standards and not forgetting retraining and CPD which we all should be doing, those things aint cheap. If I could be sure I would be busy on 180 a day 5 days a week I would go freelance fulltime, but at the moment its too risky out there. I wish it was not the case because Im really keen to go self employed fulltime and cut loose from where I am. I have been fortunate thanks to arbtalk to have gotten a few guys using me semi regularly and they really value me and that alone is worth more than an extra 20 quid so I may still risk it, just depends on how fed up I get which increases by the day! Hourly rates are just rubbish, seriously, I wouldnt drive to a job if all there was in it for me was 2 hrs work at 15 quid an hour, what a joke. Its true there's a lot of young eager beavers out there these days, the collages have been pumping them out for years now, one things for certain though, they are learning their craft at the expense of those hiring them, and you get what you pay for. I know I wouldnt let anyone with less than 5 years experience do 80% of the work I have to do, and lets face it us freelancers aint called in to do easy connie bashes! we get the knarlies, and were good at it cos thats ALL we get! All I know is, I'm earning the same now as in my 20's, I am now 40 and have a mortgage! I guess that is progress huh? Personally I think I preferred the good old days when good climbers where like rocking horse manure and run off our feet 7 days a week, good old days when we was minted and having a blast! I do miss the good old days, proper good times.

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I missed the bit about it only being a foot diameter! If its bothering your client already wait till its full grown! Where exactly are trees supposed to live?

wood anemones are ancient woodland indicators too, I will dig out my list of them later. might even post a few photos for you tommorow. good thread:thumbup1:

It was not foseable, why do YOU feel the council are at fault in THIS?

This is why I never get anywhere, im too decent, would have claimed off my own insurance, whilst the council may not fell them all in case of another claim, slowly but surely as they go, they will not be replaced, its been happening for decades.

Try a BIG fencing agricultural supply firm.

you have been looking at law long enough to sound like a solicitor:thumbdown: you can justify anything you like mate... see you in court!

The whole point of the NTSG (national tree safety group) work and recently published document was to ensure that unforseable stuff is just that, unforseable and not subject to liability. Its this whole lets find blame culture that results in trees being felled JUST in case, and do you honestly think in the future big trees or trees full stop will be planted again when they are felled because of complaints or worse lawsuits like this? There will be NO trees in towns, they die in 30 years due to abuse as it it, add this crap attitude and what chance have they got? NONE ZERO. when its obviously forseable, a long term flaw fault, body language and forseable then fine, they deserve to get done, but in this case? on the other hand, did they have these trees assesded annualy? nope, probably not. so i get both sides, but THIS was not forseable, no external signs or fruitbodies.