muldonach
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Like I say the AW Jenkinson Plant at Lockerbie was offering £24/ton at the plant gate this summer - once you take harvesting and transport into account there is a negative return. Invergordon would mean transhipping out of Ayr docks in 2-3000t tranches which is feasible - what price are they paying? Cheers mac
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Rural area = limited market and plenty of saturday / sunday woodcutters I'm afraid - do about 50t / year of hardwood thinnings - you cannot give softwood away locally except to woodburning stove owners and I believe the FC practically gives it away up here. When I hear prices of £45/tonne for firewood we really are in a different world - only thing that comes close to that kind of price is sawlogs. Cheers mac
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At £45/tonne @ roadside I am a willing seller with large quantities to bring to market over the next few years, mainly softwoods SS & LP but with a proportion of hardwoods - all sub 10" for processor. Who's buying? Cheers mac
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Hi
hoping to pick your brains a bit more if that is Ok?
Pulpwood - min 8cm max 45 cm - what are normal lengths to cut it 2.7? - mill price delivered in?
Fencing - 8-16cm - again what is standard length and do you know a mill price?
Cheers
mac
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The only bulk market for firewood round my way is in Lockerbie - AW Jenkinson - the last time I spoke to them - summer - they were offering £24/tonne delivered in. Haulage will be about £12/tonne and access for an artic is a big issue. Cheers mac
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They don't reflect the prices being bandied around on here - a 1 cu metre bag , box or whatever will be lucky to hold 0.5 cu metre of solid timber, assuming it is thrown into the bag, box or trailer. Which at a typical density of 700kg/m3 equates to :- 22.53p/kg at £80 per cube 28.57p/kg at £100 per cube 34.28p/kg at £120 per cube The price they quote (17.66p / Kg) comes out at £61.81 for a 1 cubic metre bag of seasoned logs. 85% boiler efficiency looks pretty optimistic as well but that is another thread. Cheers mac
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1 tonne of wood @ £50 will fill 2 x 1 cubic metre bags of split logs which at your quoted rate of £80 per cube will offer a decent return - obviously depending on time taken and delivery distance. I don't see any way people can pay £100-120 a cube for woodfuel for heating,we burn 25 cubes a year to heat a mid size house so anyone buying in woodfuel as a primary heat source at £100 per cube is wasting money I would have thought. We certainly do not pay £50 per tonne - it is free to us cheers mac
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Fishing for information to be honest - we have small scale machinery available but it does not suit that ground, I mess about a bit with firewood but am not in touch with the roundwood markets. We have had a couple of the companies you mention look at the site and as already mentioned getting any useful information is difficult to say the least. We have had one company offer a price on an out-turn basis, my first impression is that the offered price is low but obviously they have to cover harvesting and haulage & leave a bit for themselves. Cheers mac
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We are in the process of bringing a softwood clearfell to market, there are various difficulties with the site. I have had several of the big companies come to visit and getting any information on prices and out-turn is like getting blood out of a stone. I have a couple of offers on an out-turn basis but they look a little light to me. Site is easy sloping deep peat, crop is 3SS:1LP P73, Yield class 14 and 10, plant spacing is 2m x 2m and about 60-70% has survived. 20 ha in one coupe and estimating 4-5000t total. The forwarder will have to haul brash about for sure and it will need light loads and low ground pressure to avoid bogging. Longest haul - one corner to another will be 600m What is a sensible price for harvesting / forwarding? Cheers mac
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Timber Stack Volume quibbles
muldonach replied to TimberCutterDartmoor's topic in Forestry and Woodland management
175 cubes is worth arguing about - how about sampling it - mark of a couple of 1 x 1 sections and measure the base area of all the timber inside the lines? Should not take too long and will indicate who is nearest. Altenatively sell by weight? No arguing with a weighbridge ticket. Cheers mac -
Depends very much on where you are i.e. how much your local market will bear. We do seasoned hardwoods at £60 / cube delivered within 20 miles, another local guy does softwoods at £40 for 1.2m3 collected. Any attempt to charge £100/ cube would get the dogs set on us! Cheers mac
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So does that mean a 4 x 2 which is experiencing wheelspin is no longer a 2wd?
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No con at all and all modern landys certainly do have permanent 4wd. All the centre diff does is allow a little variation in drive - all 4 wheels are driving but if any one wheel spins all the drive will go to that wheel, it is a necessary feature on road to avoid axle wind-up when cornering, which results in a viscious self straightening action in the steering. Losing a halfshaft or a propshaft will not immobilise a landy in itself - if its a halfshaft then just lock the diff (or engage 4wd on the series models) if it is a UJ then remove the propshaft since they normally break a lug when they let go. It will drive fine on the road but be useless off road or in slippy conditions. Cheers mac
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You would be surprised I think at just how fuel efficient a ship is - cannot recall figures accurately but 2000 tonne of cargo can be moved at about 10 knots ( 240 miles per day) for about 5000l of diesel In round figures that is 100 truck loads - no idea what a loaded wagon burns but suspect it will not make 240 miles on 50 litres - ready to be corrected though. Cheers mac
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If you get the chance of a lug-all winch - american made in aluminium - grab it - not all that powerful but dead light and easy to use. Cheers mac
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Sorry but you can get over fixated on "optimum results" and moisture content - what matters is that it burns well and gives a good heat output. We have heated our house for 20 years plus with wood that has been split and stacked in an open fronted and sided shed for as little as 3 months - chimney swept twice in the year. Quite happy to sell the same stuff and customers happy to get it, yes it is not optimum - but it is perfectly acceptable Cheers mac
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It will be almost impossible to reduce a hawthorn crown with a polesaw unless you are really really luck - the very dense growing habit makes it very difficult to get anything you cut out of the crown unless you can get a really good grip on it. A good deal of patience may be required but as others have said they are impossible to kill with a saw - winter is best and cut it back as much as you want. We had some hedges on the farm which had grown into trees - well past the stage of being able to lay them so we simply felled them and put a sloping cut on the stump - they have never looked back and the regrowth is just about due to be layed. cheers mac
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20?? In a day??? - should be doing 60+! Once you get past the hairy outside trees the snedding should be much easier. cheers mac mac
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What will charge this winter for hardwood logs per mt
muldonach replied to mendiplogs's topic in Firewood forum
Actually I think I would be looking for a supply of gas or oil rather than pay those prices. Good luck if you can get it but you would be well above market rate up here cheers mac -
We are truly living in a world gone mad! For heavens sake we are talking about firewood - the last thing we need is another set of self appointed box tickers Cheers mac
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If they are getting grant money for woodland management then they should have no problem in paying the guy who is doing the management. bad access and small parcels do not make for easy (or possibly any) profit. Cheers mac
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In all fairness the car parking charge also covered the bus travel to and from the site so I did not think it excessive - what was barefaced robbery was the catering - £4 for a burger certainly blunts the appetite somewhat cheers mac
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currently being offered £21 / tonne at roadside for hardwood, believe eon in Lockerbie are paying £32 delivered - what are you paying down your way?
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get an estimate of volume together and find a decent guess as to the timber density - which will fall off once it is felled, the link below came out of a quick google HTh Wooden Calculator
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It means that the woodland owner has paid the subscription. Cheers mac
