Tom D

The tar isn't soluble in water Dean, it will readily burn though if there is enough air,hence stoves recommending that they are burned full bore after each re-fuelling,to burn off all the tar. It is vaporised tar that gives the flames, once the tar is gone you're left with carbon which glows rather than flames. Water can not pass 100 degrees until all of it has been turned into a gas, so a wet log will stay at 100 deg until all the moisture is gone. The boiling point of tar is much higher and theoretically won't be reached until all the water is gone, (in reality the edge of the log will be burning while the centre is still cold) and so as the wet log burns the moisture and tar is slowly released and the flue stays cold, with a dry log the log gets hot quickly boiling the tar more quickly too. The flue needs to be above the condensation point of the tar for its full length in order for all the tar vapour to pass right out of the top, dry wood will make this easier to achieve.

We had a few flakes this morning, they then froze, I would have thought it would have warmed up as the day went on, but there is a raw wind blowing, makes it feel much colder than it actually is.

does it not have diff locks?

I think there is a lot of guff talked n this subject, as big j says the flue temperature is the important factor, dry logs contain MORE tar by weight than wet ones, so smouldering dry logs will gum up a flue just the same as wet ones. Dry timber burns hotter and therefore warms up the flue quicker allowing tar vapour to escape the top of the chimney, also it gives out more heat to the room as less heat is wasted boiling off the moisture in the wood. i think you will struggle to get lower than 20%mc drying outside and another factor is species, split pop will dry much quicker than split cherry, so if they are both in the same pile some logs will be dryer than others, I don't bother to measure the mc of my logs any more, lives too short. There are loads of guys selling green wood out there.... and very few selling sub 20%mc stuff. Mine will easily pass the pepsi challenge with most of the stuff around here. And thats all that matters, its about making money after all.

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the power has gone to his head Mark.... was it

Ditto. Your groundie should know a marlin spike?

small tractors struggle to load logs out of a pile, I find if you can stack your logs on a reasonably hard surface then you can get the bucket underneath the pile and scoop them up no problem.

lets see some pics or her then...

I don't pay class 2 either, total waste of money. This series is very good.... There was an interesting part where he asked people where they thought NI went... most has no idea it was just income tax. BBC iPlayer - Your Money and How They Spend It: Episode 2

thats the problem with NI contributions, the government would have us believe that they all go into a pot somewhere to earn interest for our retirement.... however in reality they are just another income tax, all the money goes straight out in government spending. If the system really worked as people imagined then we would all have accrued a healthy government pension pot by the time we retire. In fact the state will have already spent all that money and our state pension (if there is one) will be paid for by the taxpayers of the day....our children.

so you're not going to chip into her?

you getting a tow behind chipper stevie? gis a shout if you want to come over when I have that bandit on demo, or get him to bring it to you after me.

if the tree was inspected then the liability probably falls on the professional indemnity cover of the inspector, if it wasn't inspected then the owner is liable..... you just need to find out who the owner is. Your insurer may well be able to follow this up for you, many home and motor policies have legal cover, you might as well get your moneys worth out of them.

I made the decision last month to stop doing small orders. It has paid off big time. This morning I delivered 5cube to a guy who used to buy one bulk bag every 3 weeks or so, I have found that when you tell people that the minimum order is 3 cube (£160) or 5 cube (£240) they just order more, in fact I have been surprised how many have gone for the 5 cube load... Let someone else do all the half baggers.

Mike hill.

My best man had a job with the council for a while, he was a good employee, turned up early and worked hard all day, he'd leave when his work was finished. after a couple of weeks one of the old hands took him to one side and said" this is the council son, we dinnae work too hard here" he was expected to slow down as he was showing everyone else up. the other stories he tells about that place are truly shocking.

Really? So if the PS has been such a fantastic and cushy number all these years, so easy to get in to, so little to do, such fantastic pay, brilliant benefits etc. why aren't you in it? Alec because some people don't want to work for the state, or anyone else for that matter.... I spoke to a guy the other day who had left the council tree team because it was so boring, a spec of rain and they sat in the van all day... short days and a load of colleagues who tried to do as little as possible. He was much happier working in the private sector.

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All the professions cost money to get in to, not just teaching....

They ate through all 4 belts on my stump grinder a couple of years back and have had a go at the wiring on my wires car..

You don't pay a percentage of the years that you work, you pay a percentage of your salary, i.e.. £30K salary, annual contribution of £900, so forgetting about interest and inflation you have paid in £40500 over your working life, you then live for another 20 years on say90% of final salary which is £27000 a year. That 27k over 20 years of retirement adds up to £540000!! so having paid in less than 50K you withdraw over half a million!! And who makes up the shortfall???? Me.

agg221, I am basing my comments on knowing a lot of people having been in the business for a while, I know that for example that council gardeners, get paid more than the guys who do the exact same job, (strimming weeding etc) for private facilities management companies, I also know that council tree surgeons are better paid than many in the private sector, I am not talking about self employed guys here but paye employees. There will be exceptions that break the rule of course but in general being employed by the state is as good or better than the equivalent private sector job. I should add, I have never bought the daily mail in my life. the only "paper" I read is private eye.

At the moment a council worker contributes around 3% of salary to their pension, so for 45 years they contribute just 3% and then if they live to be 85 they get 20 years at full pay in retirement!!! That is an amazing deal, I would bite the arm of any pension broker who offered me a deal like that. Even the new arrangement is several times more generous than anything available to the likes of me. I am paying over 10% of my salary into mine and won't see anything like the return that civil servants get. I wouldn't shoot the strikers, I'd just stop the state sponsored pension scheme and let them get a private pension like everyone else.

unless they work for the state in which case they will be minted...