Chris Sheppard
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I was gonna say that
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Cheers for the heads up
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Thansk for letting me know - It'd be a bit small for what we need and it'd most likely be more than we're looking to spend. I did used to have a 48hp Carraro in the woods a few years ago and know that if I was getting another alpine it would need to be a big one to cope with the trailer when fully loaded on rough going.
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clear felling valley, what to charge?
Chris Sheppard replied to xcjack's topic in Forestry and Woodland management
they aren't worth loads, it's just over here it's worth nowt -
There was a guy on here had a cheap Japa 100 for sale (think it was hulls mill farm) - know it's only a sawbench with a corkscrew splitter rather than a full on processor but they are aa great starting point
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clear felling valley, what to charge?
Chris Sheppard replied to xcjack's topic in Forestry and Woodland management
Isn't that what we do it for anyway - coz it's definitely not for the money -
I used to go felling on my own 99% of the time and didn't really worry about it much at the time. Was chatting away to a non forestry mate one night and he put it to me about what I'd do if I had an accident and that got me thinking a lot more about it. I now don't work on my own very much at all - there's usually two of us on site, either both felling or one fellign and one extracting. Yes, need to find a bit more work I suppose but we both were doign our own things anyway so in effect as long as we both still find as much work as we were, we don't need to find much extra if that makes sense? I've always been torn on the apprentice thing - in one way you can nurture them to be what you want, but on the other hand they can be quite time consuming to begin with. Suppose it all boils down to finding the right person.
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clear felling valley, what to charge?
Chris Sheppard replied to xcjack's topic in Forestry and Woodland management
I was trying to think of a nicer way to put it -
clear felling valley, what to charge?
Chris Sheppard replied to xcjack's topic in Forestry and Woodland management
I wouldn't be surprised if it's already been looked at by others and they've walked away as it sounds like a pig of a job. Are you trying to work out a price for the whole job, a day rate, a price standing etc? What kit do you already have/what do you need to buy or hire in? -
I'm pretty sure you'll struggle to get a 3.5t iveco up-plated unless it came out of the factory as a higher class and has been downrated to 3.5t. We looked at both off the shelf 3.5t and downrated ones and they seemed to be completely differnt vehicles , though I may be wrong. Vosa aren't stupid, they have a good idea of what a certain vehicle "should" be able to carry if they can see what's in it. Once they get their teeth into you they tend to keep coming looking
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Not that much and not this soon - still in the process of saving up and researching at the mo. That ferrari does look smart though Hoping that can pick up a Holder for less than or around £5K from what I've seen.
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Ever since seeign the one we used to have at Newton Rigg, I've always had a bit of a hankering for a Holder A60 or similar. We're currently using a 30hp Landini on the forwarding traielr which is doing a really good job for it's size btu we are on an unusually flat site at the mo. Long term we're thinking of getting hold of something with more power, bit heavier and also a bit less fragile underneath. The Holders seem to be maiking more sensible money thatn they were when I first looked into them a few years ago and generally I've only ever heard good feedback about them but I've seen/heard of a few that have needed new engines/lot of work on the engine. Are they prone to engine problems or are these liekly to be worn/abused? I would consider another alpine, but for what I want it for I'd really be needing 85-90hp to get the weight/clearance and they are like rocking horse poop
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If you were going to use a swivel instead of a rotator, you might be as well even just considerign using a decent set of lifting tongs on the end of the crane as you'd have to steer the log by hand anyway. Seen a few people do this on an hiab type crane but it's gonna be slow. Never looked into it, but maybe a 180 degree rotator might help bring the cost down rather than a continuous one? We did have a 180 degree one on a very old Botex on one estate and it was a right PITA, though I was used to contionuous so it might have just been me being stubborn.
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They aren't cheap at all - new, a decent rotator will be at least £500 and that'll only be a fairly small one, and the grab at least a grand How big do you need? If it's reasonably small, Jonathan Latham had some left over from a load he bought in off those little Jussi Vahva trailers and cranes and they were very cheap- can't remember off top of my head but it was loads less than anywhere else at the time - think it was even a Baltrotors rotator on it too.
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Roughly where are you based?
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You make that sound like a bad thing
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I wholeheartedly agree with that and couldn't have put it better I've only ever owned one pair and the rubber perished and fell to bits well before they wore out - from being sat in the house not being used.
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Surely that's a good thing - surprised manufacturers don't fit them as standard if they fit a towbar from the factory Sounds like it's been a good truck though
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I found myself watching that video last night getting a bit more inspired. I agree, it would be a very good and versatile setup for managing smaller parcels. I noticed last night that there is now a smaller head than the 51, just called "forst" and only weighs 280 odd kg and doesn't need as much flow
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the future of forestry and FC in the UK
Chris Sheppard replied to europeantrees's topic in General chat
Surely contractors with their heads screwed on can do it on their own without a syndicate? I reckon syndicates could get messy - too many differing ideas within it and then it all falls to bits - just my opinion. -
I try not to go on mascus too much as I get carried away I'm sure I read an old FMJ that had an article on someone in the UK running a Vimek, but I can't find it again.
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£23K - bum - I was kinda hoping there'd be a few second hand ones floating about for Patu money For crane feedign the Patu always looked quite good - bit like the niab but the other way up and you caould do it all from inside the cab. I was thinking similar, we do get a lot of birch round us that is usually fairly straight and with not a lot of low branches and fluffy tops. We've been throwing a few ideas around for mechanising on a smaller scale - I'd still really really liek a Vimek harvester (I can dream) or maybe a reverse drive valmet and roof mount with a Keto Forst head on it but again, that's still a long long way off. Been considering somethign like one of the Naarva grip stroker heads but they are quite steady and will only cut up to around 10-12" on timber that is quite soft as they are a shear, but from memory are sub £10k for the head and fittings brand new.
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no idea on price but I bet there's a few kickign about second hand in Sweden/finland etc. I wonder if it would handle lightly branched hardwood? only ever seen the Patu, Nokka and maybe one Hypro over here.
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Realise it's not going to be ideal for every site but I think it could be useful. admittedly the tress in the vid are quite small/short, but around us there is a lot of wood that really should have been thinned years ago so is tall and thin, but still quite hairy, and not in a position to be shortwooded out. I see the niab as a way of cutting out a process or two - go mad felling, get someone following up behind winching and processing and then chase them up with a forwarder. I'm liking the whole self contained-ness of it, no crane needed and it'll go on a bog standard tractor. Nokka do a head (think it's a harvesting head rather than just processign) which does indeed have an adjustable four way knife on it which is a stroker so I reckon you could be onto somethign there Stevie Did see the homemade one on youtube somewhere too.
