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"Thanks Guy, I'll find reading this most useful. ok then i will copy over the other 2 "What does your position as 'observer' involve ? chairing the root subgroup, etc. an amorphophallus by any other name will stink as bad...

Just out for its final(?) public review; fyi, fwiw. http://www.tcia.org/sites/tcia.org/files/A300Part8-Drft3-V1-PubRev-12.2012.pdf

hows this http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/fletcher/programs/nursery/metria/metria07/m79.pdf

similar disease tearing up N Q'land. closest i could come to an ID was Chrysoporthe cubensis/sp. sapwood rotter--no rhizomorphs as you note-- so i don't know what tomo would show...what did picus show on that one?

ah someone is thinking; i will ask her to send some. you can see the one on the left... Trick? No. i voted for them all btw cuz they all could be right.

email says: I have newly moved and am looking for someone who is certified and with experience. While it is "only" a flowering pear tree too thickly populated with branches for winds to get through, I don't want someone who will be hacking without real knowledge." how should this tree be managed, preferably using BS3998 etc standards? this is a free estimate.

Sharpen your pen, until it is is mightier than your saw. i still love to climb and prune at 62, but PHC is most of what i do. ArbNews_2007_02.pdf page 12 here may be of interest; not too outdated is it?

Yes thanks; some new ones in there...morticulture? vintage lonsdale; selling that concept to US arbs will be a trick...revising the attached in that effort; advice welcomed. Pruning and Habitat-- Balancing Objectives (1).docx

"I enjoy tree work but my love of it is certainly waning as I get older" Why is this Perhaps integrating arb/eco? Clients love to see their trees lived in, and on. Pruning and Habitat-- Balancing Objectives (1).docx

Sounds like the Borescope covered here. Never did get it--thanks for the reminder--Christnas is coming! decay_ArbNews_2009_02.pdf

""Touching trees" (getting 'up' close & personal) is the only way to 'learn' what's going on upstairs. " True, but i was also being more literal than that, per the detective's hands-on work below: I felt the slightly shriveled and sunken bark above the question mark and tapped and pried off loose, dead bark. The woundwood felt thick and hard under my fingertips, the richest source of tactile feedback on the body. Mechanoreceptors, packed under the ridges that form my fingertips, felt many years’ worth of growth in the texture of the lignified callus.

Sean and I did a session on this in oz last year; handout fwiw: Current Topics in Aerial Assessment by Guy Meilleur and Sean Freeman Background: ISA provides past issues of its research journal and Arborist News magazine available free to all at International Society of Arboriculture. Just click Education, then Publications, and you can read and download articles whenever you like. Two examples are August 2010’s Climber’s Corner on Aerial Assessment, and October 2009’s Detective Dendro case featuring the aging arborsleuth and his young team ascending trees to assess and treat lightning damage. Thanks! to tradeshow vendors here today for their generous loan of gear. Please check out their offerings of diagnostic equipment and other kit that is key for work such as: Sizing Up Status: Tree owners love learning exactly how tall and wide their tree is, so they will pay you to climb to the top and drop a tape measure. What could be easier? US arborists boost appreciation of large trees--and their tree care providers!--by nominating trees at http://www.americanforests.org/resources/bigtrees/nomination.php Check out Veteran Trees Group Australia at Veteran Tree Group Australia to see how ancient trees down under are brought to light with video and still cameras. Get a Grip on secrets in trees by shedding your gloves. Feel for bumps and bulges and striations that reveal powers within. With practice, hands can learn to hear the tree’s stories. Curiosity about Creatures: From cockatoos and woodborers to more beneficial birds and bugs, the interaction between critters and trees can be significant. Climbers trained to see and collect them in bags and boxes and images provide valuable services to tree managers. Translate body language by pushing and pulling on limbs and watching their response. Climbers can often see the best locations for pruning cuts and supplemental support cables. Tapping suspicious areas with special hammers can reveal hollow areas without damage. Learning to use tomographs can make climbers valuable members of a consultant’s team. Probing the width and height of hollows documents defects without drilling. At the 2006 ISA conference, Dr. Dan Marion described an appropriate response to Tree Risk. Using a soft tape measure, Dan checks the relative size of defects and their host tree parts to track battles between host and pathogen, allowing trees to be responsibly mainatined over time. When you can, set the saw aside and use other tools, like your hands and your mind and your heart. Touch Trees, and they will show you right ways to care for them, and much more!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6ZeC2gPDzk]Great Falls White Oaks Aerial Assessment - YouTube[/ame] [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAxxk6ojeMs]Great Falls White Oaks Aerial Assessment pt.2 - YouTube[/ame] first assessor noted "high risk from lightning strike and big dead limbs".

Not that I've successfully documented aka can't find pics.

David, it seems the regrowth from ax wounds is near nodes; nothing random about it. just scraping around these sites could also work. look for buds w hand lens first.

Leaving the bottom 3 meters would indeed be a good strategy. That would conceal the strengths in the tree that would give the lie to the faulty condemnation. Oozing on the trunk is a fatal flaw? Or one mushy hole? Get real indeed, urban loggers.

The big adventitious roots in pic #3 are not girdling, so they are advantageous! The girdlers in the other pics look like straightforward pruning opportunities. None appear too large or too likely grafted to be pruned. Correcting the causes--soil on stem tissue, and soil compaction away from the stem--also seems in order.

Hmm wrinkly socks...but it's been seen on trees that have no signs of heartrot otherwise, as well as some pretty hollow old boys...if the owner is keen to cut it; it's their tree after all. if it's a tpo thing certainly a case could be made for retention, but given location etc. it's not one I would crusade for. if you do the removal, a pic of the insides of those wrinkly socks would be marvelous! Do we get Kd? all the time; attached stories and others have dealt with it. both of the maples are still around, 4 and 5 years later. I was shocked to see the leaner with gano and Kd both still standing, just the other day. Thinning crowns lighten loads and lessens risk, but coring can tell a great deal and like schwarze says, if you're gonna make a hole, make a big one. Would you take an increment out of the rot pocket first, or where? Dendro 11 Bumpy Blackness.pdf Dendro 8 Terrible Tar.pdf

I'm slow on the uptake here--is the black oozing the primary cause of concern? From here it looks minor--remove the infected material, trace the wounds (dead material only), hose it off, HO3 scrub, and cauterise. Probing the sinus with the gunk in it might lead to a rot pocket, or not. not much to talk about until the extent of cavity is determined. But the streaks on the bark might be blemishes only. The tree is innocent of instability until proven Guilty!

Gorgeous form, and the trunk looks like someone added armor to it! Reaffirms the belief in a divine creative force afoot in the universe. Does anyone else see the horizontal grooves on the 2 buttresses to the left? They puzzle me. I've seen these in various veterans; prevailing hypothesis to date is some kind of vascular collapse and shunt. That's a wild guess; or maybe a cable cut across it and i'm seeing things...

Sounds good to me, though it'll take more than one pint! meanwhile thinking and nonthinking arbs alike who see issues are always welcome to write letters to the author or the editor. published material is a public topic, so public discussion is fine. Beats innuendo any day! And I agree that each tree is different, and pruning can't be all mechanical or mathematical. However we need to communicate using numbers, and some trees need similar treatments, so specifications may be similar, like >5' reduced off the sprawling side, or >4' clearance from roof, etc. " if i think its not remotely workable I pipe up" Yes essential to do this; repeated in ANSI A300 standard over and over.

" Matthecks cone method should help giving ideas as to where roots NEED to be. Though root morphology is not as cut and dry as this, most trees once mature will have a cone of decay in the basal region and associated levels of decay in the attached old woody roots. meripilus is one of those that can feed from these older tissues for many decades" ok i'm with you so far. " before progressing to the more dangerous mode of degrading the shear killing fine root system." These are the adventitious roots that developed at the edges where decay in the primary roots stopped, yes? And these secondary roots "kill" movements that would shear tissues apart, hence "shear killing"? I'm behind, sorry. "It is really this action of dissolving shear killing roots that is the danger with Meripilus colonisation. if we have shear kill roots we have no problem, if we dont, we have a big problem. So IMO it is these shear killing roots we should attempt to locate" Like the one in the image with the calipers? ", and most basal investigations I've seen done have been at the very stem base, where very little worthwhile knowledge on the mechanics can be gained as to the true extent of this particular interaction." or many others; gotta dig deeper for info. "The other flip side of the coin is the potential for loosening of the shear root ball during such investigations," We generally use a coarse, porous aggregate like lava or expanded slate and compact it. But often there are pruning or support works above that make toppling less likely. " retaining trees with Meripilus is what I would regard as the most tricky of all the fungi interactions, a very challenging area. One needs a VERY solid understanding of mechanics, decay modes and aging tree morphology to fully understand and give a worthy prognosis to each case. All the evaluation tools picus, resist-o-graph, root radar have little to offer in these investigations, and may as well be left in their box!" Like trapeze work with no net! "root radar will pick up the sound upper half of the horseshoe form of the roots but not the shear killers, resist-o-graph will go through the upper wall of the root and then feel no resistance as it is the underside that is gone, this isnt the problem," VERY WELL PUT. "and it doesn't tell you anything about the re iterative roots coming off as shear kills from the occluding tissues associated with the decaying undersides." Ah okay, reiterations, yes, that's exactly what we saw on q alba. the root was covered up and is scheduled for annual measurement. "Picus, well that is a butt evaluation tool and we all know butt rot is too low to be read with Picus in Meripilus cases dont we" Yes gotta dig deeper for info. Hand tools work but take a bit more time. thank you for a marvelous post!

So true. Perhaps get a good look in the sinuses around the base, and if no other signs of problems appear then avoid sounding any alarms. Whisper words of wisdom, let it be, let it be. (acknowledging Sir Paul--ok with you hama, or should I name the album too?) don't remove branches without a good reason. Eiffel Tower/expanded buttress, nice.

Trees are longterm-"thinking" beings too, but sunscald and rot and uncontrolled sprouting can commence to a significant extent within a decade's time. Good idea to check back as you say in 5 or so years. "Send me everything youve worked on and i will show you where and who you failed to acknowlege, Not that im that worried and have more pressing concerns right now." Hmm well you were worried enough to raise the question. When you have time to show me the error of my acknowledging ways, you can start with the 12 articles on the website. Bear in mind however: The section at the end always acknowledges works referred to/influenced by, like Ted Green's paper cited June 2012, after his review. Most importantly the saying "There is nothing new under the sun" applies here. Several times I've been enamored of my own ideas, then find out that some bloke on the other side of the world has known that for years. Other ideas seem like news flashes, until we see that Evelyn was aware of them back in the 1600's. So doesn't any claim of intellectual property rights need to have some perspective? Good idea setting this aside! I'll look into BS 3998 for the technical details you refer to, thanks.

"learn to credit where its due and I might give you the benifit of the doubt!" tell me where i failed to attribute and i will correct that. no specifics, not actable; pm if want. Hormonal balancing happens much of the time by itself yes. 10 years is a long time. "I dont get into those conversations anymore, its so pre 2010! and so a wast of time,the sooner we stop talking % the better." And what would go in its place? size and location of cut, type of lateral(s) to retain, length of branch to cut...? I measure % of crown as the % of living buds and hate to go over 50%. But it's all in the tree's response; that's where the right and wrong is determined. If sprouting is not wild and fungus does not advance, then the dose was not excessive. I find % a very useful aspect to consider, if carefully defined.