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I would argue that you could achieve the same speed for the same cost by just get in 2 extra climbers and maybe use a ladder to speed up access.

 

I think road side is one of the LAST places you would want to be using a MEWP.

 

I was talking about a day.

 

My humble apology for not knowing the cost of MEWP hire, but I don't use them so don't know.

 

People are always saying how expensive they are :confused1:

 

 

Your earlier post seemed to imply differently, but I can understand that you don want anyone to know that you know how much mewp hire costs! :001_tt2:

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The ONLY reason I could ever see for using a MEWP, would be lack of skill on the contractors part and if thats the case then its probably a good call.

 

I know you are not a fan of MEWP's but really isnt that saying that you are more skillfull than everyone who uses a MEWP? And those that use them on occasion dont have the necessary skills to carry out 'real' tree work!

 

The same could be said of using a crane tbh! but I'm sure you wouldnt appreciate that :001_smile:

 

I have had job specs that could NOT be done by climbing.

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I know you are not a fan of MEWP's but really isnt that saying that you are more skillfull than everyone who uses a MEWP? And those that use them on occasion dont have the necessary skills to carry out 'real' tree work!

 

The same could be said of using a crane tbh! but I'm sure you wouldn't appreciate that :001_smile:

 

I have had job specs that could NOT be done by climbing.

 

A MEWP takes you to a position that allows you to make a cut, I can do this just as well (IMO) with rope and harness.

 

My crane can lift several tonnes, move it and put it in my tailer, I CAN'T.

 

In simple terms my crane makes me money.:001_smile:

 

If a MEWP can make you money, buy one and improve your income. :thumbup:

 

I was not saying that the people who use MEWP's are lacking in climbing skill, I think they are making a mistake in using one, as I would sooner have the profit.

 

I do feel their is a risk of becoming "de-skilled" by using a MEWP.

 

In 15 years I have not had a single job I could not do with out a MEWP, I did hire one once for a week of reducing a Hawthorn hedge, I parked it up at lunch time on the first day and just climbed it all.

 

If MEWPS are so great (and it would appear much cheaper than some say) they will soon take over and I will be out of work :001_smile:

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i was considering getting a mewp in for doing some horible skinny trees growing at an even more horrible angle behind a house on a slope, but after seeing this then no chance, i like the look of these types of mewps as they look very stable but i never considerd strength of the area where i would palce it, it is a small parking area but it is definately home made with some spare tar from when the fllats have been built 30 years ago, and there is a drain too, so who know how shallow the pipes are. thanks for raising that point dean. monkey monkey time it is then lol

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A MEWP takes you to a position that allows you to make a cut, I can do this just as well (IMO) with rope and harness.

 

My crane can lift several tonnes, move it and put it in my tailer, I CAN'T.

 

In simple terms my crane makes me money.:001_smile:

 

If a MEWP can make you money, buy one and improve your income. :thumbup:

 

I was not saying that the people who use MEWP's are lacking in climbing skill, I think they are making a mistake in using one, as I would sooner have the profit.

 

I do feel their is a risk of becoming "de-skilled" by using a MEWP.

 

In 15 years I have not had a single job I could not do with out a MEWP, I did hire one once for a week of reducing a Hawthorn hedge, I parked it up at lunch time on the first day and just climbed it all.

 

If MEWPS are so great (and it would appear much cheaper than some say) they will soon take over and I will be out of work :001_smile:

 

I'll have to reply to this a bit later when I have more time, :001_smile:

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Dave, you know I'm pretty much anti MEWP. You know me, you've seen my pics, you know I am not one for doing jobs inefficiently.

If I can smash it flat with the excavator and ram it through a big chipper, I will. If its the dodgiest deadest rottenest tree barely standing, I'll climb it.

Ergo, If I think a mewp is going to save me time, effort and money on a job, I'm not going to be hiring one for a laugh...

 

I have used one in the past for accessing trees growing out of a cliff face.

 

They are also very usefull for jobs where you have a physical impediment stopping you getting to the base of trees.

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Dave, you know I'm pretty much anti MEWP. You know me, you've seen my pics, you know I am not one for doing jobs inefficiently.

If I can smash it flat with the excavator and ram it through a big chipper, I will. If its the dodgiest deadest rottenest tree barely standing, I'll climb it.

Ergo, If I think a mewp is going to save me time, effort and money on a job, I'm not going to be hiring one for a laugh...

 

I have used one in the past for accessing trees growing out of a cliff face.

 

They are also very usefull for jobs where you have a physical impediment stopping you getting to the base of trees.

 

That makes good sense.

 

All the pic's I see on here are of jobs were I just think WHY ???:confused1:

 

As always these are only my opinions, I really do believe people have the right to get the job done in what ever way they feel is best for THEM :thumbup:

 

I really don't like them, I think its partly because I traded though a period where we had tossers in suits trying to tell us we HAD to use them, I REALLY resented that!!:thumbdown:

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That makes good sense

 

I really don't like them, I think its partly because I traded though a period where we had tossers in suits trying to tell us we HAD to use them, I REALLY resented that!!:thumbdown:

 

According to best practice guidelines, we still should use them EVERY time, unless its impossible due to access constraints.:001_rolleyes:

 

My take is keep encouraging everyone to use them as much as possible. That means I can charge a premium for doing the trees unreachable by MEWP :wink:

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