Is there a lack of groundman?

[eggsarascal]

Aint necessarily so eggs,i would charge less for grounding than climbing.

Although it would vary according to the individual involved

 

Why?, it's a days work (let's not forget that we are Tradesmen). That day will cost you £xxx. Why would it matter what you are doing?

 

It's different if I'm using my own gear that gets charged on top, but labour only is the same rate whatever I'm doing.

 

It's not a race to the bottom.

[Pete Mctree]

They really earn it Mick, I expect production & targets to be met. This industry has become too reliant on the "climber", It is a team that works best in my opinion.

I do not place a higher value on anyone on the site. A good groundie will have a different skill set to a climber & it is with shared hard work & the combination of both that jobs get done quickly, efficiently & without unnecessary stress.

[swinny]

Why?, it's a days work (let's not forget that we are Tradesmen). That day will cost you £xxx. Why would it matter what you are doing?

 

It's different if I'm using my own gear that gets charged on top, but labour only is the same rate whatever I'm doing.

 

It's not a race to the bottom.

 

You must be short of a few brain cells to not charge more or physical labour of being deep down in a hole as you say. Or you must just get away with charging a good whack whilst out with your clipboard.

 

Tomato tomato mate

[eggsarascal]

They really earn it Mick, I expect production & targets to be met. This industry has become too reliant on the "climber", It is a team that works best in my opinion.

I do not place a higher value on anyone on the site. A good groundie will have a different skill set to a climber & it is with shared hard work & the combination of both that jobs get done quickly, efficiently & without unnecessary stress.

 

Now we've got some sense going on.

[swinny]

They really earn it Mick, I expect production & targets to be met. This industry has become too reliant on the "climber", It is a team that works best in my opinion.

I do not place a higher value on anyone on the site. A good groundie will have a different skill set to a climber & it is with shared hard work & the combination of both that jobs get done quickly, efficiently & without unnecessary stress.

 

You must get very good day rates up there, team of 3 must be on 700 quidish

[eggsarascal]

You must be short of a few brain cells to not charge more or physical labour of being deep down in a hole as you say. Or you must just get away with charging a good whack whilst out with your clipboard.

 

Tomato tomato mate

 

I think it's the other way round. Charge good money when you are doing physical labour, which in turn, turns out as money for old rope when doing easy work....... Are you still with me?

[Pete Mctree]

I contract climb & groundie - all at the same rate & I don't see why I should not. I bring my skills & equipment to both & it is down to the employer to utilise me to his best advantage. Putting on a harness is not the be all & end all in this industry

[Pete Mctree]

You must get very good day rates up there, team of 3 must be on 700 quidish

 

Rates are dependant on what is achieved in a day - they are not that high unfortunately which is why I try & avoid them.

[swinny]

I think it's the other way round. Charge good money when you are doing physical labour, which in turn, turns out as money for old rope when doing easy work....... Are you still with me?

 

I see what you are saying but there's no chance it would work with 90% of the companies up here

[treequip]

If I was to ring you and ask your day rate as a subbie what would the answer be?

 

I had a lad from Arbtalk take down a tree for me a while back, he told me what his day rate was and we had a deal, I'm pretty sure if I said it was dragging brash his day rate wouldn't have been any less.

 

Rate for dragging would have been climbing rate plus 25% because its lots easier sending it down than dragging it. :laugh1: