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[forestboy1978]

10 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

I read the book, it’s out on loan at the moment but happy to mail it over when it comes back if you’d like.  It’s the biggest example of civil liberties hypocrisy you’ll ever see. If some of the civil liberties whiners had a genuine “social conscience” they’d be championing TR as a victim of state sponsored censorship.  I might be doing them a disservice, maybe they are inherently racist as well as hypocrites, maybe “is it because I is white” that we’ve never seen

the likes of  Shami Chakrabartihami  going out on a limb for him, despite the fact his civil liberties were ridden rough shod over....

Thanks Kev but I'll buy it. Happy to give him the money.

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

3 minutes ago, Mark J said:

If he wasnn't barred from being Prime Minister would you vote for him?

(A) Is he barred?

 

(B) In a f*ckng flash if the alternative was JC! ?

 

You edited after I’d replied Mark!

 

I didn’t suggest HE was a champion of civil liberties, but rather that those that proclaim to be champions have been conspicuously silent on some of the fundamental civil liberties infringements he has been subjected to. 

 

 

Edited March 24, 2018 by kevinjohnsonmbe

[forestboy1978]

1 minute ago, Mark J said:

If he wasnn't barred from being Prime Minister would you vote for him?

Is that a genuine question or do you intend to undermine dependent on the answer?

 

I know it wasn't directed at me but, no, I wouldn't unless it was absolutely down to him or Corbyn. In which case, anything but that lunatic. 

[forestboy1978]

I posted that ^^^ before I your reply was updated on my screen lol

[Mark J]

Fair enough, If I come across his book in a charity shop I'll read it and see what the crack is.  Do you know if he actually wrote it or it was ghost written like Trumps book was?

 

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

2 minutes ago, Mark J said:

Fair enough, If I come across his book in a charity shop I'll read it and see what the crack is.  Do you know if he actually wrote it or it was ghost written like Trumps book was?

 

I’d mail it to you Mark (and make a duplicate payment on your behalf!! ???)

[Mark J]

5 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

(A) Is he barred?

 

(B) In a f*ckng flash if the alternative was JC! ?

A) Apparantly not.  I was under the impression that if you'd been jailed for over 12 months that you couldn't be an MP.  Turns out that it's only if you're still in jail or unlawfully at large that you can't.

 

[Mark J]

2 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

I’d mail it to you Mark (and make a duplicate payment on your behalf!! ???)

No need for that, I'd send it back when I was done.

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

1 minute ago, Mark J said:

A) Apparantly not.  I was under the impression that if you'd been jailed for over 12 months that you couldn't be an MP.  Turns out that it's only if you're still in jail or unlawfully at large that you can't.

 

A mortgage fraud conviction....  If that was enough to debar from running for office the Palace of Westminster would be empty bar the tumbleweed!!

[Mark J]

3 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

A mortgage fraud conviction....  If that was enough to debar from running for office the Palace of Westminster would be empty bar the tumbleweed!!

Favoured people don't end up with criminal convictions.

 

It is worrying about the nazi pug bloke.  The judge said that context was unimportant.  Context and intent is everything.

 

It's an attack on free speech which everyone should be aware of.  The courts have used 'Context 'in cases of child abuse.  It's not on that there should be some parts of the law where it matters and some where it doesn't.

 

Edited March 24, 2018 by Mark J