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[Mark J]

3 minutes ago, scotspine1 said:

Universal basic income might work in an economic basketcase like India but it'd never work in the modern economies of Western Europe or the States. 

Why's that then?

[Vespasian]

1 minute ago, scotspine1 said:

Universal income might work in an economic basketcase like India but it'd never work in the modern economies of Western Europe or the States. 

and you know that because?..

 

Seems to me that UI might be a winning idea..   I especially like it because I wouldn't turn my nose up at ten grand a year before I have to lift a finger..  

 

We can deal with the immigrants problem by encouraging less of it..  I don't know, we could "breed our own"...

[scotspine1]

17 minutes ago, Mark J said:

Why's that then?

You haven't thought about it much beyond hero worshipping Varoufakis have you?

 

It encourages mediocrity in the individual which adversely affects the economy because people stop believing in the transformational nature of work and high achievement, their goals are diminished by a universal state handout. 

 

It's interesting it's an idea also being pushed by the likes of Zuckerberg. 

 

They want people sitting at home doing nothing while the robots do the work. Ever heard the saying the devil makes work for idle hands. 

 

It'd cause massive civil unrest. 

 

You should read J.G. Ballard's Cocaine Nights: 

 

 "A billion balconies facing the sun; still, it means a final goodbye to wars and ideologies. But how do you energize people, give them some sense of community? A world lying on it's back is vulnerable to any cunning predator."

 

 

 

[Mark J]

9 minutes ago, scotspine1 said:

You haven't thought about it much beyond hero worshipping Varoufakis have you?

 

It encourages mediocrity in the individual which adversely affects the economy because people stop believing in the transformational nature of work and high achievement, their goals are diminished by a universal state handout. 

 

It's interesting it's an idea also being pushed by the likes of Zuckerberg. 

 

They want people sitting at home doing nothing while the robots do the work. Ever heard the saying the devil makes work for idle hands. 

 

It'd cause massive civil unrest. 

 

You should read J.G. Ballard's Cocaine Nights: 

 

 "A billion balconies facing the sun; still, it means a final goodbye to wars and ideologies. But how do you energize people, give them some sense of community? A world lying on it's back is vulnerable to any cunning predator."

 

 

 

Bollocks.  The principle is that by affording people a basic income, they'll be able to pursue the vocation they have.  Thereby creating a society of people who earn more than they would have previously.

 

I'm not a professor of economics.  If you can point me in the direction of someone who is well read, who has something to say about the subject, I'd be happy to watch it to gain a different perspective.

 

[scotspine1]

3 minutes ago, Mark J said:

Bollocks.  The principle is that by affording people a basic income, they'll be able to pursue the vocation they have.  Thereby creating a society of people who earn more than they would have previously.

 

I'm not a professor of economics.  If you can point me in the direction of someone who is well read, who has something to say about the subject, I'd be happy to watch it to gain a different perspective.

 

 

If the government gave you £200 a day what would you do with it? 

 

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[onetruth]

3 minutes ago, scotspine1 said:

If the government gave you £200 a day what would you do with it? . 

Buy euros.

[Mark J]

18 minutes ago, scotspine1 said:

 

If the government gave you £200 a day what would you do with it? 

 

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I'd probably pay someone to do things for me.

[scotspine1]

29 minutes ago, Mark J said:

I'd probably pay someone to do things for me.

 

Why wouldn't you give it to the homeless guy down the street? 

 

 

 

 

[Mark J]

He'd already have £200 quid a day.

[scotspine1]

6 minutes ago, Mark J said:

He'd already have £200 quid a day.

 

Correct, so why do you need it again?