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[AHPP]

I assume the DEFRA visit was for the tree one.

[Mark J]

  On 22/12/2024 at 13:19, AHPP said:

I assume the DEFRA visit was for the tree one.

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It was. It was something to do with ash dieback disease. The best bit was side-tracking the bee man, it's fascinating stuff they get up to. 

[Stere]

Is  sugar beet seen as  a viable crop without neonicotides im wondering.....

 

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I think i remember  Adam on countryfile saying OSR  was very hard without so he was going stop growing it or somesuch....?

 

 

 

 

[Stubby]

When I was a young " oik " ( about 10 or 12 ) the shunting yard at West Gate in Chichester was awash with sugar beet . We used to collect a few up and stand on West Gate foot bridge and when a steam loco came under we tried to get one down the funnel . If successful a sugar beet would go into orbit ! A spiffing weeze 😁

[sime42]

  On 22/12/2024 at 11:30, Johnsond said:

Stupid way to start a reply imo. Sets the tone 42 in all the wrong ways. 

Anyway it the ATL way I guess. 
Regards the countryside and cheap food, you didn’t pick up on what I was saying. My choice is I’d have thought well known to you if you actually think back. I shoot a lot of my own meat, I use local farm shops and butchers at every opportunity. I’ve spent 13 years landscaping and planting Trees Shrubs etc on the property I’m in now, multiple bird boxes and areas  set aside to do what nature wants. 
My point was/is those living in cities or built up areas etc without the financial resources, inclination or opportunities to possibly hunt or grow food will always be more concerned about the cost than the effects it has upon nature. There’s far more of those types than the likes of myself. 
I’ve actually stalked over beet fields down in Lincolnshire and second only to the forestry  plantations up here they were dull lifeless desolate locations. Unfortunately they both are a part of the world we live in. 
I could go off on a tangent about the link between extra mouths to feed and immigration but I’ll save that for another day. 
 

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That's good. You should share some photos of the results of your horticultural and culinary exploits on here sometimes.

 

"My point was/is those living in cities or built up areas etc without the financial resources, inclination or opportunities to possibly hunt or grow food will always be more concerned about the cost than the effects it has upon nature."

----------- but it doesn't have to be like that.

 

"I’ve actually stalked over beet fields down in Lincolnshire and second only to the forestry  plantations up here they were dull lifeless desolate locations. Unfortunately they both are a part of the world we live in."

----------- but it doesn't have to be like that. There is another, better way of doing things. A man of your prodigious motivation and dogmatism could help bring about change if you refocused your efforts to a more worthwhile cause like this, our broken food system.

 

"I could go off on a tangent about the link between extra mouths to feed and immigration but I’ll save that for another day. " --------- please do. You have to use five distinct sentences though.

 

 

 

 

[Johnsond]

  On 22/12/2024 at 22:31, sime42 said:

 

That's good. You should share some photos of the results of your horticultural and culinary exploits on here sometimes.

 

"My point was/is those living in cities or built up areas etc without the financial resources, inclination or opportunities to possibly hunt or grow food will always be more concerned about the cost than the effects it has upon nature."

----------- but it doesn't have to be like that.

 

"I’ve actually stalked over beet fields down in Lincolnshire and second only to the forestry  plantations up here they were dull lifeless desolate locations. Unfortunately they both are a part of the world we live in."

----------- but it doesn't have to be like that. There is another, better way of doing things. A man of your prodigious motivation and dogmatism could help bring about change if you refocused your efforts to a more worthwhile cause like this, our broken food system.

 

"I could go off on a tangent about the link between extra mouths to feed and immigration but I’ll save that for another day. " --------- please do. You have to use five distinct sentences though.

 

 

 

 

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The force is strong within you 42, that of the ATL smart arse prick. 
I never take pictures when shooting 42 especially of animals that  have been taken down. Basic respect  for the life you have taken, you exhibit a total urban dwelling ignorance of the subject. Every single creature from a rat to a Red Stag deserves a clean ending and not have pictures plastered over the internet. Maybe I’m a bit old school in that respect but it suits me fine. 

I’ve posted pics previously of the outside spaces at my place, in fact I’ve been accused of being too open by one of the  “ very shy “ ATL members recently . 
Up your game a bit if you want to try and play it this way. 

Edited December 23, 2024 by Johnsond

[Johnsond]

  On 22/12/2024 at 22:31, sime42 said:

My point was/is those living in cities or built up areas etc without the financial resources, inclination or opportunities to possibly hunt or grow food will always be more concerned about the cost than the effects it has upon nature."

----------- but it doesn't have to be like that.

 

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🤷‍♂️ Rubbish, massive increases in population and the sheer cost of rural living, land and limited hunting opportunities would make your statement a pure fantasy. 

 

  On 22/12/2024 at 22:31, sime42 said:

I’ve actually stalked over beet fields down in Lincolnshire and second only to the forestry  plantations up here they were dull lifeless desolate locations. Unfortunately they both are a part of the world we live in."

----------- but it doesn't have to be like that

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Again pure fantasy. 
I do what I can for me my friends and family. The tens of millions of urban dwellers need feeding. How many of those want to get blood or dirt on their hands. Or even have the opportunities to do so. 

Edited December 23, 2024 by Johnsond

[Johnsond]

UK economy heading for 'worst of all worlds', CBI warns

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The CBI said in its growth survey that businesses cite Rachel Reeves' decision to raise employers'...

That’s the problem with blagging your CV 🤷‍♂️. It’s good to see people experiencing the reality of a high spend high tax ever expanding public sector type  ( apart from the military) government. Opposition must have felt so easy compared to being in charge. 

Edited December 23, 2024 by Johnsond

[Steven P]

Looking at the charts of the last 2 years, 5 quarters of negative growth, 1 flatlining, and 2 of actual growth (coming off the back of 5 negative growth, perhaps a bounce back). Since this spans 2 different administrations perhaps there is something more fundamentally wrong than whoever the current chancellor is. I wonder if the UK had any major political upheavals in say, the last 5 years that is affecting its growth.

[sime42]

  On 23/12/2024 at 02:01, Johnsond said:

The force is strong within you 42, that of the ATL smart arse prick. 
I never take pictures when shooting 42 especially of animals that  have been taken down. Basic respect  for the life you have taken, you exhibit a total urban dwelling ignorance of the subject. Every single creature from a rat to a Red Stag deserves a clean ending and not have pictures plastered over the internet. Maybe I’m a bit old school in that respect but it suits me fine. 

I’ve posted pics previously of the outside spaces at my place, in fact I’ve been accused of being too open by one of the  “ very shy “ ATL members recently . 
Up your game a bit if you want to try and play it this way. 

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You missed the point as always. I wasn't suggesting you take photos of shooting. You should read the words people write;-

 

"That's good. You should share some photos of the results of your horticultural and culinary exploits on here sometimes."

 

I totally agree with you wrt for life. I spent the first half of my life as rural dweller.