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30 minutes ago, Steven P said:

Forgot to say, can I bring you anything?

Just straight answers but you won’t because you are a total  blagger. You know SP if I’d said something blatantly untrue that I couldn’t back up or was called out on I’d put my hands up and take it on the chin, rather than try and deflect or brass it out. This is not the first time or the first thread where you have done this. The anonymity offered by the internet is a blessing for the likes of yourself. You should be embarrassed or maybe you have absolutely no shame. 

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6 hours ago, Conor Wright said:
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this popped up on my feed earlier. Scary stuff. What a detachment from reality.

 

no idea who the guy is apart from what's said in the interview. anyone care to give me some more context?

 

 

 

He was an advisor for Labour during Blair years. He's called John McTernan. He's not currently employed by Labour and it looks like Starmer and his clan are publicly denouncing his opinion. 

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10 hours ago, sime42 said:

This is a tough one. What are people's thoughts?

 

I feel it's the right thing to do, though it makes me uneasy.

 

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The proposed law would allow terminally ill adults in England and Wales to end their own life - but opponents say it could...

 

 

 

It has always confused me why it's an offence to allow an animal to suffer, they call it inhumane, but a human is legally obliged to suffer.

 

I believe palliative care practioners say there is a lot that can be done for someone, but there comes a point they just can't 'make someone comfortable'.

A way should be found where an individual has agency over their own suffering.

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I suspect that there have been ways found over the years to shorten the suffering - weaker medicines or 'forgetting' to take them, 'do not resuscitate' instructions (when doing so could give a longer life), and perhaps the odd overdose (which any doctor would never say "Do not take this whole packet, it will kill you painlessly, it is meant to last a month").

 

Reading the articles earlier, 2 doctors to sign it off a week apart, a judge to check it over, the patient takes the medicines, looks like plenty of checks in there so you have to be sure. Can't comment on the morality though, never been there but... I think individuals need some self determination of their fate.

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1 hour ago, Doug Tait said:

 

It has always confused me why it's an offence to allow an animal to suffer, they call it inhumane, but a human is legally obliged to suffer.

 

I believe palliative care practioners say there is a lot that can be done for someone, but there comes a point they just can't 'make someone comfortable'.

A way should be found where an individual has agency over their own suffering.

 

Bang on.

 

The advances in medicine over the years have largely been a positive, in terms of length and quality of life obviously. It feels to me though that the flip side is that sometimes now people are being kept alive just for the sake of not being allowed to die. Almost as though as a society we're trying to shy away from death, we're starting to forget that it's an inevitability. (We medicalise death too much these days, that's a phrase I've heard a few times, not sure if that's the same thing.) If the individual wants to keep going for as long as is humanly/medically practical then that's their call. The issue is that that is too often not the case, depending on perceived quality of life mainly I guess. It's all about agency as you say. That and dignity. It's no coincidence that the place in Switzerland is called Dignitas I suppose.

 

It didn't happen thankfully but I think we could easily have slid into a situation where this would have become a very pertinent issue with my Dad. He died of an undiagnosed, and incurable, neurological disease, some kind of autoimmune thing probably. I'll never know for sure but I'm pretty confident that he would have wanted to have choose the time and place where he declared that enough was enough, if it had dragged on too long.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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😂😂Yeah right 

Trump and Mandleson, could you get any further apart. He was renowned for being a lying shit bag if I remember, including sneaking his “ boyfriend “ into the country 🤮🤮

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