Making the news today....

[Mark J]

6 hours ago, Conor Wright said:

Olly Harrison (@agricontract_ollyblogs) • Instagram reel

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1,856 likes, 412 comments - agricontract_ollyblogs on November 11, 2024: "#farming...

this popped up on my feed earlier. Scary stuff. What a detachment from reality.

 

no idea who the guy is apart from what's said in the interview. anyone care to give me some more context?

 

 

 

He was an advisor for Labour during Blair years. He's called John McTernan. He's not currently employed by Labour and it looks like Starmer and his clan are publicly denouncing his opinion. 

[Steve Bullman]

28 minutes ago, Mark J said:

He was an advisor for Labour during Blair years. He's called John McTernan. He's not currently employed by Labour and it looks like Starmer and his clan are publicly denouncing his opinion. 

Publicly being the key word 

[PeteB]

Wonder if the church will be offering reparations to the victims of Smyth? 

[Doug Tait]

10 hours ago, sime42 said:

This is a tough one. What are people's thoughts?

 

I feel it's the right thing to do, though it makes me uneasy.

 

Assisted dying bill: This is about shortening death, not ending life, says MP proposing assisted dying bill

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The proposed law would allow terminally ill adults in England and Wales to end their own life - but opponents say it could...

 

 

 

It has always confused me why it's an offence to allow an animal to suffer, they call it inhumane, but a human is legally obliged to suffer.

 

I believe palliative care practioners say there is a lot that can be done for someone, but there comes a point they just can't 'make someone comfortable'.

A way should be found where an individual has agency over their own suffering.

[Steven P]

I suspect that there have been ways found over the years to shorten the suffering - weaker medicines or 'forgetting' to take them, 'do not resuscitate' instructions (when doing so could give a longer life), and perhaps the odd overdose (which any doctor would never say "Do not take this whole packet, it will kill you painlessly, it is meant to last a month").

 

Reading the articles earlier, 2 doctors to sign it off a week apart, a judge to check it over, the patient takes the medicines, looks like plenty of checks in there so you have to be sure. Can't comment on the morality though, never been there but... I think individuals need some self determination of their fate.

[sime42]

1 hour ago, Doug Tait said:

 

It has always confused me why it's an offence to allow an animal to suffer, they call it inhumane, but a human is legally obliged to suffer.

 

I believe palliative care practioners say there is a lot that can be done for someone, but there comes a point they just can't 'make someone comfortable'.

A way should be found where an individual has agency over their own suffering.

 

Bang on.

 

The advances in medicine over the years have largely been a positive, in terms of length and quality of life obviously. It feels to me though that the flip side is that sometimes now people are being kept alive just for the sake of not being allowed to die. Almost as though as a society we're trying to shy away from death, we're starting to forget that it's an inevitability. (We medicalise death too much these days, that's a phrase I've heard a few times, not sure if that's the same thing.) If the individual wants to keep going for as long as is humanly/medically practical then that's their call. The issue is that that is too often not the case, depending on perceived quality of life mainly I guess. It's all about agency as you say. That and dignity. It's no coincidence that the place in Switzerland is called Dignitas I suppose.

 

It didn't happen thankfully but I think we could easily have slid into a situation where this would have become a very pertinent issue with my Dad. He died of an undiagnosed, and incurable, neurological disease, some kind of autoimmune thing probably. I'll never know for sure but I'm pretty confident that he would have wanted to have choose the time and place where he declared that enough was enough, if it had dragged on too long.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Johnsond]

Mandelson's plan to charm Trump as UK's ambassador - and why Brexit could wreck it

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New Labour architect renowned for his political skills is in pole position for what could be a tricky job as...

😂😂Yeah right 

Trump and Mandleson, could you get any further apart. He was renowned for being a lying shit bag if I remember, including sneaking his “ boyfriend “ into the country 🤮🤮

🤔

 

[Mark J]

Here’s Why I Decided To Buy ‘InfoWars’ - The Onion

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Today we celebrate a new addition to the Global Tetrahedron LLC family of brands. And let me say, I really do see it as a family...

 

Excellent stuff:

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c30p1p0j0ddo

 

[Steven P]

1 hour ago, Johnsond said:

Mandelson's plan to charm Trump as UK's ambassador - and why Brexit could wreck it

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New Labour architect renowned for his political skills is in pole position for what could be a tricky job as...

😂😂Yeah right 

Trump and Mandleson, could you get any further apart. He was renowned for being a lying shit bag if I remember, including sneaking his “ boyfriend “ into the country 🤮🤮

🤔

 

 

We'd agree on something, court of law, jury and all decided he is a 'lying shit bag', and rapist to boot! Cool... agreement from JohnsonD!

[Johnsond]

11 minutes ago, Steven P said:

 

We'd agree on something, court of law, jury and all decided he is a 'lying shit bag', and rapist to boot! Cool... agreement from JohnsonD!

Ah the Arbtalk Blagger, how you getting on with the “ fighting age evidence” 🤷‍♂️
I think your blinkers have blinded you, I was  referring to the lying fraudulent gay not the past and future democratically elected leader of the free world.