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[Mark J]

26 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

Rioter who punched police officer in face in Southport jailed for three years

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Derek Drummond receives longest sentence so far over far-right disorder, with two others jailed...

Swift and harsh justice and deservedly so. Now can anyone tell me how the case is progressing with the two Muslim males who attacked the police officers in Manchester Airport resulting in a female office suffering a broken nose. Surely with the amount of video footage available that is also gonna be dealt with at breakneck speed. 

The courts will be overrun dealing with your mob. 

Middle-aged radicalisation: why are so many of Britain’s rioters in their 40s and 50s?

THECONVERSATION.COM

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Researchers are trying to understand what makes this group so vulnerable to falling for fake news online.

 

 

[sime42]

I was interested to read that article earlier. Surprised that the Environmental Agency had made it on to this guy's comprehensive list.

 

[Johnsond]

1 hour ago, sime42 said:

 

I just hate to see lots of innocent people getting hurt because of guilible muppets spreading hate filled disinformation and nonsense on social media. What's your motivation for doing it ve?

 

"you might be surprised at the more sensible reasoned argument being put over in LI" - you're right!  I'd be amazed if old Anthony Brennan could put together any kind of cohesive argument. He just wants to get 73000 lads, (football hooligans), out on the streets to get pissed up, mess around with flags and smash stuff up. He doesn't really explain why they're needed, why this is happening. Since your LI shows you all that good content ve, maybe you could explain the back story here? Because to most people it just looks like a load of racists have used an unrelated tragedy as an excuse to kick off, (sorry, "protest").

 

 

 

That sounds ominous. Why are you so scared of Starmer, what's your worst fear? It's all a bit weird.

 

 

So I’m now spreading what 42 ?? Give yourself a ****************ing shake man. Having a different view is not illegal “ yet” 
As I’ve just asked Mark, explain why the airport attackers have not been dealt with as swiftly. The attitude of Starmer and some of you here will not help in the long run , you will get a quick high because those whom you oppose get punished but what about the long term consequences 🤷‍♂️more and more resentment ?. 

Edited Wednesday at 15:02 by Johnsond

[Johnsond]

9 hours ago, Mark J said:

The courts will be overrun dealing with your mob. 

Middle-aged radicalisation: why are so many of Britain’s rioters in their 40s and 50s?

THECONVERSATION.COM

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Researchers are trying to understand what makes this group so vulnerable to falling for fake news online.

 

 

Not my mob mark but I won’t just sit and blame one bunch while ignoring the other which is what you are doing. Explain why breaking an officers nose on camera has not been met with the same response?? . You of all people should understand the long term consequences of battering down views you don’t want to hear or disagree with. 42 seems to think it’s weird to worry about what starmer is doing right in front of us and alluding to what comes next. You seriously think there is not massive amounts of discontent with many of the communities effected by the riots 

Edited Wednesday at 23:37 by Johnsond

[Mark J]

27 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

Not my mob mark but I won’t just sit and blame one bunch while ignoring the other which is what you are doing. Explain why breaking an officers nose on camera has not been met with the same response?? 

I thought that you'd be marching with them about 'two tier policing', like you went marching against COVID. My mistake. 

The case against the Airport scumbags probably has more to it, therefore a detailed investigation is in order, especially as a copper stomped on one of the perpetrators. I suspect that it will take time to build up a robust enough case that the CPS accept it. Also, very few people engage in airport fracases.

In terms of rioting scumbags, it's quite easy to tell from a video if someone has launched a brick, it's not a complex case. I suspect that the gov. are keen to quickly make an example in an attempt to dissuade potential missile throwers.

Also, the pervious government stripped the Justice system dry. 

This is worth a read if you want to learn anything about the UK justice system:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Secret-Barrister-Stories-Law-Broken/dp/1509841105

Edited Wednesday at 15:07 by Mark J

[Johnsond]

15 minutes ago, Mark J said:

I thought that you'd be marching with them about 'two tier policing', like you went marching against COVID. My mistake. 

The case against the Airport scumbags probably has more to it, therefore a detailed investigation is in order, especially as a copper stomped on one of the perpetrators. I suspect that it will take time to build up a robust enough case that the CPS accept it. Also, very few people engage in airport fracases.

In terms of rioting scumbags, it's quite easy to tell from a video if someone has launched a brick, it's not a complex case. I suspect that the gov. are keen to quickly make an example quickly in an attempt to dissuade potential missile throwers.

Also, the pervious government stripped the Justice system dry. 

This is worth a read if you want to learn anything about the UK justice system:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Secret-Barrister-Stories-Law-Broken/dp/1509841105

**************** off mark don’t talk crap.  I’ve said all along it’s wrong but also it should be dealt with the same whichever side is commuting the offence. 
Your eyesight ok I take it or did you miss the girl getting her nose broken ffs . As for covid 🤷‍♂️if you ain’t worked out you was ass raped yet there’s no hope. You guys try so bloody hard to paint a picture of anyone who disagrees with you, think about it Mark I’m ex forces I’ve mates in the  police “who’s experience of policing certain communities you’d probably not want to hear”and prison service my cousins a paramedic in Blyth, why the **************** would I be out attacking people. But I do as many others believe that certain groups are treat differently when it comes to policing in the UK. Anyway worst of all I’d lose my FAC/Shotgun licence if I so much as had a good row with the Mrs never mind attending a riot. 
Why are these communities doing it Mark ?? and do you think the approach by Starmer is right ? . 

Edited Wednesday at 15:24 by Johnsond

[sime42]

46 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

So I’m now spreading what 42 ?? Give yourself a ****************ing shake man. Having a different view is not illegal “ yet” 
As I’ve just asked Mark, explain why the airport attackers have not been dealt with as swiftly. The attitude of Starmer and some of you here will not help in the long run , you will get a quick high because those whom you oppose get punished but what about the long term consequences 🤷‍♂️more and more resentment ?. 

 

Why don't you just pause for a minute to compose your thoughts, before you set finger to keyboard? Rather than having to go back to do multiple Edits on every post.

 

Anyway. " it’s weird to worry about what starmer is doing right in front of us and alluding to what comes next. " - you didn't answer the question ve. Again. Why are you so scared of Starmer, what's your worst fear for "what comes next"?

 

 

[Steven P]

100+ police officers are also hurt in these protests also. Some are also women. Why up tight about 1 lady police officer being hurt amongst so many? Checks nationality / religion of the offenders.

 

So the Southport man admitted the offence, justice is done quickly without a trial. Manchester man didn't and so the police have to gather all the evidence to create a case to take to court so enable a win. Manchester police are gathering evidence which takes longer than "Did you do it?" "Yes" "OK, off to prison". Is that simple enough. Not much more to it than that, certainly no 2 tiers of policing.

 

Southport man went out that evening to cause trouble, premeditated, Manchester man was flying home with his mum where I believe he squared up to someone giving his mum racist abuse and it kicked off from there, no premeditation. 

[Mark J]

32 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

**************** off mark don’t talk crap.  I’ve said all along it’s wrong but also it should be dealt with the same whichever side is commuting the offence. 
 

What do you men by "Whichever side"? 

Whichever side of what?

Are you in a race war or something?

Edited Wednesday at 15:43 by Mark J

[Steven P]

Why are the communities doing it? The top line is they are being wound up - like some on here - by the press, by Farage, by Robinson, to a lesser extent by Trump, by the internet forums and social media all saying "we are being over run or attacked, defend yourselves"... and that goes to both sides of the argument - Farage et al appealing to the White British and their messaging by inference the Muslim community "Farage and his mob are gong to attack, lets defend".

 

That's the headline reasoning why the communities are dong it. Deeper into it though there are universal social problems making the idiots susceptible to the suggestions that throwing bricks at the police is a good idea - poverty, poor living conditions, the 'great and the good' lording over them, no view on how to better themselves, and so on. Not seen many of the protestors coming out of their £300k+ Barratt houses do we? They are pouring out of the £150k Victorian terraces though.

 

If you look at for example the knife crime hotspots in the country (or gun crime areas in the US) the demographic of both sets overlap.

 

 

Maybe instead of seeing who can shout the loudest over whose fault it is, left or right, maybe understand the problem and say to the politicians that that is what needs to be addressed. It can be done, look at say Glasgow, 20 years ago, a lot of stabbyness, some areas I wouldn't walk alone at night where I would happily now, a political will changed that, a realisation of the issues... and they is what is needed.