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[AHPP]

Time to seriously talk about common sense car control laws. 

[Mick Dempsey]

1 hour ago, sime42 said:

Hard to fathom how they were allowed to carry on shooting for at least 10 minutes without an adequate police response. 

 

 

 

 

On the face of it yes.

But consider they were heavily armed, with no intention of escape or capture, they had selected a easily defendable raised base, practically a concrete stockade, with views over all approaches.

 

A sniper in the flats from where we saw the videos would have taken them out easily enough, but how long to set that up?

 

Interested in the thoughts of ex military on this question.

[5thelement]

1 hour ago, AHPP said:

Time to seriously talk about common sense car control laws. 

The only way to stop a bad guy in a car is with a good guy in a car. 

[AHPP]

48 minutes ago, 5thelement said:

The only way to stop a bad guy in a car is with a good guy in a car. 

It might sound like you’re joking but you’re not or you shouldn’t be. You need equal or greater force to resist a given force.

Edited 3 hours ago by AHPP

[5thelement]

20 minutes ago, AHPP said:

It might sound like you’re joking but you’re not or you shouldn’t be. You need equal or greater force to resist a given force.

What happens when you attempt to use your ‘greater force’ but I take it from you and beat you to death with it? 

[AHPP]

Only Steven took me up on governments disarming jews. Matty had the good sense to keep his tyrannical desires to himself. Markie ducked it like a Paxman interview when he saw what I was driving at. 
 

What was I driving at? 
 

The 1930s German government disarmed jews. The 1940s German government pushed them onto trains then gassed them to death. That’s why governments shouldn’t be able to disarm people. 
 

Don’t be silly, Alex. They disarm everyone equally these days.
 

Everyone but themselves you might note.

[AHPP]

17 minutes ago, 5thelement said:

What happens when you attempt to use your ‘greater force’ but I take it from you and beat you to death with it? 

The same thing as before I tried.
 

Why does nobody level that argument at state police, military etc? If I wanted to do what the Bondi blokes did, I’d hit an armed copper with a car and take his guns.

Edited 3 hours ago by AHPP

[Mick Dempsey]

Alex, I reckon most people saw it coming a mile off.

[5thelement]

15 minutes ago, AHPP said:

If I wanted to do that the bondi blokes did, I’d have hit an armed copper with a car and take his guns.

It would be easier and less risky if you just bought an illegal firearm off the street to carry out such actions. 
5 grand would certainly cover it. 

[AHPP]

I’ve already paid for the ones strapped to a policeman though.