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[Mark J]

16 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

I’ve already said “ no idea “ it’s a purely hypothetical question at this point anyway. 

I agree it's hypothetical, but you've stated you support Reform, and they have stated that they want to privatise the NHS.

Do you hypothettically support the privatisiation of the NHS for all UK citizens?
 

Edited July 4 by Mark J

[Johnsond]

4 minutes ago, Mark J said:

Do you support the privatisiation of the NHS for all UK citizens?

No i don’t.

But it’s an unsustainable unfair failing inefficient behemoth of an organisation, with a ludicrous amount of high paid pen pushers in its midst.
I support reform but like all political decisions it’s a trade off, I don’t have to agree with every decision or policy . Me personally, could I afford a health care package for my family with one of the providers 🤔yeah I could as could many of us, the question is should I have too after paying into the system since I was 16 🤷‍♂️. The insanity of it is the fact I get the same level of treatment as an illegal immigrant arriving yesterday or a person who’s never worked a day in their lives Mark, you think that’s fair or sustainable. 

[Mark J]

1 hour ago, Johnsond said:

No i don’t.

But it’s an unsustainable unfair failing inefficient behemoth of an organisation, with a ludicrous amount of high paid pen pushers in its midst.
I support reform but like all political decisions it’s a trade off, I don’t have to agree with every decision or policy . Me personally, could I afford a health care package for my family with one of the providers 🤔yeah I could as could many of us, the question is should I have too after paying into the system since I was 16 🤷‍♂️. The insanity of it is the fact I get the same level of treatment as an illegal immigrant arriving yesterday or a person who’s never worked a day in their lives Mark, you think that’s fair or sustainable. 

Okay, Reform have already said they'll sort out illegal immigration. 

Stopping the boats might take longer than privatising the NHS would.

If they privatise the NHS prior to stopping the boats, will you still feel happy that most people who have paid NI have no direct access to medical care?

Think of all the people you know who have been helped by the NHS. That's what reform wants to monetise. Who is going to get the money from that?
 

[Johnsond]

13 minutes ago, Mark J said:

If they privatise the NHS prior to stopping the boats, will you still feel happy that most people who have paid NI have no direct access to medical care?

What part of “ no I don’t “ do you struggle to comprehend Mark. I’ve answered you !!. Where was happy even mentioned?? Come on you are going the same route as that clown SP just making shit up. 
How about the questions I put to you about illegals and those who have never put a penny in getting the same as those who have contributed from the day they started working??. 
NHS is like HS2 Mark you can throw unlimited cash at it but you won’t fix it. 

Edited July 5 by Johnsond

[Mark J]

7 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

What part of “ no I don’t “ do you struggle to comprehend Mark. I’ve answered you !!. Where was happy even mentioned?? Come on you are going the same route as that clown SP just making shit up. 
How about the questions I put to you about illegals and those who have never put a penny in getting the same as those who have contributed from the day they started working??. 
NHS is like HS2 Mark you can throw unlimited cash at it but you won’t fix it. 

Nah Pal, you either want to vote for the sell off of the NHS, or you don't. It's pretty black and white.

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[Johnsond]

41 minutes ago, Mark J said:

Nah Pal, you either want to vote for the sell off of the NHS, or you don't. It's pretty black and white.

would prefer a Green/"As yet unnamed left-wing party" coalition, as opposed to Reform/Tory coalition. Corbyn hasn't got the clems for a leadership role, he'd make a canny Foreign Secretary or even Home Secretary, IMHO. Green Party suits me politically at this time.

We'll see how things pan out.
 

Yeah Mark let’s see how things pan out. You still didn’t answer the questions put to you. 

[Mark J]

I think that if they have genuine asylum claims to live here they should be allowed to.

If you support Reform you support the privitisation of the NHS and everything that goes with it.

It's that simple. 

 

[tree-fancier123]

the trouble is, due to the sheer size of the world, those with genuine asylym claims is a large number of people. Admitting all would require even more urbanisation to house them. If 60k a year are kept there is a new town to be built each and every year. As far as I can see its been happening that way for 2 or more decades.

Being human doesn't mean being soft - practical considerations should come before compassion.

The UK imports a staggering 65% of fresh produce - when farmland is converted to housing it can easily be converted back to growing crops by moving all the people who live there into a government dormitory the size of an Amazon warehouse.

Vote reform - better to lose the NHS than lose at keeping our country from being overrun.

[Mark J]

5 hours ago, tree-fancier123 said:

" better to lose the NHS than lose at keeping our country from being overrun."

that seems to be the tactic reform are using in order to get their hands on the NHS. 

 

A vote for Reform is a nail in your vulnerable friend or relatives' coffin. 

[Bolt]

Is there a reason why it’s possible for most people to afford to insure their house and their car, but not their health?
 

Surely health insurance is only expensive currently because it’s not mainstream.