Making the news today....

[Steven P]

I could see drones working - can add different 'cameras' (radar, whatever it is) as it comes along, but Satellites is something else, impressive.

[Johnsond]

32 minutes ago, Steven P said:

I could see drones working - can add different 'cameras' (radar, whatever it is) as it comes along, but Satellites is something else, impressive.

But you can’t tidy up a few loose ends or be honest can you blagger. 

[Mesterh]

18 hours ago, Johnsond said:

He was under the car on his knees not paying any attention whatsoever to his surroundings, if he had not been then he’d not have ended up with a car on top of him 🤷‍♂️

He is a mechanic in a garage. If he wasn't praying then he probably would have been doing something else under that car and still would have been crushed. The fault lies in the lifting equipment or the incorrect use of it. 

Unless it was foul play like. 

 

[Johnsond]

27 minutes ago, Mesterh said:

He is a mechanic in a garage. If he wasn't praying then he probably would have been doing something else under that car and still would have been crushed. The fault lies in the lifting equipment or the incorrect use of it. 

Unless it was foul play like. 

 

But he was praying under a car and not paying attention 🤷‍♂️

[Mesterh]

Not paying attention to what? The car doesn't become unstable and dangerous because no one is looking at it. 

 

Honestly I don't know what the issue is here. He could have been kneeling down unpacking a clutch and getting it ready to fit to the car for 5 mins. Or sitting there while the oil drained out of the engine or......... I'm fairly sure that mechanics don't have to constantly keep an eye on the car above them in case it just falls off the ramp.

 

The praying bit is irrelevant.

 

[Johnsond]

30 minutes ago, Mesterh said:

The praying bit is irrelevant.

I tend to think that’s not the case. Zero spacial awareness or focus on his surroundings for starters and secondly being on his knees with his forehead on the ground will have significantly impaired ( at 58) his ability to react to the situation. All in all a bloody stupid thing to do. 

30 minutes ago, Mesterh said:

He could have been kneeling down unpacking a clutch and getting it ready to fit to the car for 5 mins. Or sitting there while the oil drained out of

But he wasn’t nor would anyone with half a brain do any of what you suggest under the car. 

[Mark J]

25 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

I tend to think that’s not the case. Zero spacial awareness or focus on his surroundings for starters and secondly being on his knees with his forehead on the ground will have significantly impaired ( at 58) his ability to react to the situation. All in all a bloody stupid thing to do. 

But he wasn’t nor would anyone with half a brain do any of what you suggest under the car. 

Struck by accidents - HSE

WWW.HSE.GOV.UK

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Over the last few years there has been an increase in the number of accidents at MVR premises arising from the movement of vehicles while under repair.

Perhaps his employers should have conducted a risk assessment. 

You're predictable and tiring with your digs at people with skin which other than white. 

Do you ever read good news stories?

 

[Steven P]

I think I mentioned this above. If the praying caused the accident then the HSE would have labelled 'Act of a god'. They didn't. They fined the workplace - it was a work place accident. End of.

 

I really cannot see how you cannot understand workplace accidents.

 

If the man had dropped a spanner and lent over to pick it up and car fell - same body position, same result

 

Would you now be saying that being 58 impaired his ability to react? I suspect there are many 58 year olds... and over... right up to lets say 77... who are active and would dispute that his age has any bearing on his reaction times either.

 

 

I might permit myself to ask a question, that will never be answered, what was your reasoning to bring this news story to the forum as opposed to say a similar work place accident of Endaf Jones? what makes the difference?

 

 

 

 

 

All you are doing is confirming your racial bias against foreign Muslims and your Islamaphobia in general. I will add for the casual observer that JohnsonDs view here is not representative of the Arbtalk membership but only 0.00125% of them, who is sadly very vocal in his views.

[Oldfeller]

1 hour ago, Mesterh said:

Not paying attention to what? The car doesn't become unstable and dangerous because no one is looking at it. 

 

Honestly I don't know what the issue is here. He could have been kneeling down unpacking a clutch and getting it ready to fit to the car for 5 mins. Or sitting there while the oil drained out of the engine or......... I'm fairly sure that mechanics don't have to constantly keep an eye on the car above them in case it just falls off the ramp.

 

The praying bit is irrelevant.

 

Having worked for one of the uk's leading 4x4 and off-road outfits I can assure you and everyone else, mechanics do not unpack parts,sit and wait for oil to drain,  have their feckin' lunch or choose under a loaded ramp as their place of worship.

this event is clearly down to operator error, bad placement of the vehicle, or faulty/poorly maintained equipment, or lack of supervision by those in charge, maybe they dare not say anything about his choice of location for fear of being accused of racism, or anti muslim?

what makes this case stand out, is the fact that he chose to pray directly beneath a car on a two post vehicle  hoist, a minimum of common sense would have suggested this was not a good location choice.

especially given the outcome.

trying to imply the op is a racist simply because he brought it to the "making the news today" thread is a somewhat desperate attempt to chastise the poster.

Edited Saturday at 19:00 by Oldfeller

[Oldfeller]

12 minutes ago, Steven P said:

I think I mentioned this above. If the praying caused the accident then the HSE would have labelled 'Act of a god'. They didn't. They fined the workplace - it was a work place accident. End of.

 

I really cannot see how you cannot understand workplace accidents.

 

If the man had dropped a spanner and lent over to pick it up and car fell - same body position, same result

 

Would you now be saying that being 58 impaired his ability to react? I suspect there are many 58 year olds... and over... right up to lets say 77... who are active and would dispute that his age has any bearing on his reaction times either.

 

 

I might permit myself to ask a question, that will never be answered, what was your reasoning to bring this news story to the forum as opposed to say a similar work place accident of Endaf Jones? what makes the difference?

 

 

 

 

 

All you are doing is confirming your racial bias against foreign Muslims and your Islamaphobia in general. I will add for the casual observer that JohnsonDs view here is not representative of the Arbtalk membership but only 0.00125% of them, who is sadly very vocal in his views.

but clearly as vocal as you are about your views of him.

or your almost maniacal search to discredit the president of america.