Tiny echo!

[Old Mill Tree Care]

  Coletti said:

Mine was 1/4 pitch and came with this fancy bar which I believe is a sugihara pro lite carving bar in 1/4 .50 but was swiftly swapped for the stihl gear as it cuts better. Shame as it did look good with it on

 

 

So is the general consensus that this Tsumara bar is no good and should be swapped for the Stihl?

If so, why is that?

[Joe Newton]

  Old Mill Tree Care said:

So is the general consensus that this Tsumara bar is no good and should be swapped for the Stihl?

If so, why is that?

 

 

The Tsumara bar on it's own is a very good bar.

 

However it's 0.050, which takes a heavier chain, requiring more energy to pull.

 

Have you seen the Stihl 150 with it's 0.043 bar and chain? It'd be like a 150 engine trying to pull a bar and chain from a 200t.

 

The 150t is a good engine, but it's the specially designed tiny bar and chain that allows it to work. Echo made an even better engine, but didn't bother with a tiny chain, so that engine is trying to pull a heavy chain.

[Old Mill Tree Care]

  Joe Newton said:

The Tsumara bar on it's own is a very good bar.

 

However it's 0.050, which takes a heavier chain, requiring more energy to pull.

 

Have you seen the Stihl 150 with it's 0.043 bar and chain? It'd be like a 150 engine trying to pull a bar and chain from a 200t.

 

The 150t is a good engine, but it's the specially designed tiny bar and chain that allows it to work. Echo made an even better engine, but didn't bother with a tiny chain, so that engine is trying to pull a heavy chain.

 

 

Thanks joe, you sad boffin! Haha!

 

I have a freelancer who has a 2510 with the Stihl bar and chain so next time he's in we'll do a speed test comparison.

[Joe Newton]

Yeah maybe I am a bit sad, but I don't see the point in buying a great little saw and not getting the best out of it.

 

Bit like buying a GTR and capping the speed of at 70!

[Old Mill Tree Care]

  Joe Newton said:

Yeah maybe I am a bit sad, but I don't see the point in buying a great little saw and not getting the best out of it.

 

Bit like buying a GTR and capping the speed of at 70!

 

 

Hahaha!

I'll video the speed test if it shows a difference.

[Joe Newton]

  Old Mill Tree Care said:

Hahaha!

I'll video the speed test if it shows a difference.

 

 

If you don't prefer it I'll let you off the hook for that Stoli

[TimberCutterDartmoor]

  Joe Newton said:

If you don't prefer it I'll let you off the hook for that Stoli

 

The Tsumura bar will be way higher quality than the Stihl. Tsumura and Sugi are the top two. Period. Better than Cannon.

[Joe Newton]

  TimberCutterDartmoor said:

The Tsumura bar will be way higher quality than the Stihl. Tsumura and Sugi are the top two. Period. Better than Cannon.

 

 

Not questioning that.

 

The echo will run way better on the Stihl bar though. Period.

[Stoatally]

Finally got the little thing out. Its so amazingly small, perfect for my week on cs39. Hardly felt it attached to my harness, easy to get in and out of everywhere I wanted it and cut very smoothly. An awesome little saw, bar and chain combo. Couple of lads had 540s and they felt enormous and really heavy compared to the echo!

[dan494]

Yeah the 540 feels like lead in comparison and the echo will keep up in the majority of cuts