Labour shortages

[Richard 1234]

There are plenty of us out there, though the media loves to sensationalise and feed the narrative that the younger generation of today is self-entitled and expects everything to be handed to them.

 

 

 

Perhaps that has something to do with parenting and culture, no? The Prussian schooling system employed in this country certainly doesn't help either.

 

 

I talking personal experience not what the papers say!!

I had 1 lad last 1/2 a morning before he decided strimming is too much hard work!!

[easy-lift guy]

I talking personal experience not what the papers say!!

I had 1 lad last 1/2 a morning before he decided strimming is too much hard work!!

 

And that Sir is the price society shall continue to pay for technology:thumbdown:

Two generations of people in capable or unwilling to perform any manual labor. I bet your ex helper had no problem using a cell phone.

easy-lift guy

[eggsarascal]

And that Sir is the price society shall continue to pay for technology:thumbdown:

Two generations of people in capable or unwilling to perform any manual labor. I bet your ex helper had no problem using a cell phone.

easy-lift guy

 

Or, is it that we lost major industry in the UK many years ago and most jobs here now involve seat polishing?

[eggsarascal]

None taken eggs

 

I personally feel we short change the kids that are not the academic sort, many of these kids would be better off channeled into a trade at an early age long before they leave school. Perhaps identify them and get them into college learning practical skills rather than leave them festering in the education system where they become disruptive. The employment rules and regs also need a tweek to allow the younger ones into the construction industry earlier, this crap of being eighteen before being allowed on a site is nonsense, by eighteen most kids have got two years of hairbrained further education courses under their belt with the associated dossers mindset firmly in place.

 

Bob

 

Yes Bob, the above would need some common sense applied though. We don't seem to make that any more.

[easy-lift guy]

Or, is it that we lost major industry in the UK many years ago and most jobs here now involve seat polishing?

 

Regrettably seat polishing and having a brown body instead of a brown nose seem ever more popular. I think the more people depend on government for many things, including common sense. The more of the same will continue.

I know if two older established companies in particular that have told me that it would be impossible to set up now for business in the UK due to government regulation and control. That is really sad and also exist here in The USA as well:thumbdown:

easy-lift guy

[gensetsteve]

None taken eggs

 

I personally feel we short change the kids that are not the academic sort, many of these kids would be better off channeled into a trade at an early age long before they leave school. Perhaps identify them and get them into college learning practical skills rather than leave them festering in the education system where they become disruptive. The employment rules and regs also need a tweek to allow the younger ones into the construction industry earlier, this crap of being eighteen before being allowed on a site is nonsense, by eighteen most kids have got two years of hairbrained further education courses under their belt with the associated dossers mindset firmly in place.

 

Bob

 

I think you hit the nail on the head Bob. We are planning what to do with our 15 year old because the nanny state wants to keep them in education until 18.

 

He is not really mechanically minded or interested in electrics so I don't want to push him into my industry.

 

since the bored seat polishers got a grip of the h&s culture ie just drag the job out make it difficult and produce a mountain of paper work. I would say this is the reason lots of trade people are giving it up and stacking shelves for minimum wage. It may be £5 an hour less but no responsability and less stress.

 

I would like to see him in an apprenticeship doing something he enjoys and is committed to.

[egnsean]

Do you consider the two mutually exclusive then?

 

No but just can't be arsed with folk that use 20 flash words when 6 everyday ones will do the same job, why try talking like a barrister when you a manual worker?

[Joe Newton]

No but just can't be arsed with folk that use 20 flash words when 6 everyday ones will do the same job, why try talking like a barrister when you a manual worker?

 

 

I find in the majority of cases, poor grammar and spelling is a result of laziness, not poor education. There are exceptions, of course, but we are all taught a reasonable degree of English as part of our "Prussian education".

 

Just because a person is in the manual sector it does not mean that a degree of intelligence is not beneficial.

 

Feel free to ask for help if any of those words are too long for you.

[egnsean]

I find in the majority of cases, poor grammar and spelling is a result of laziness, not poor education. There are exceptions, of course, but we are all taught a reasonable degree of English as part of our "Prussian education".

 

Just because a person is in the manual sector it does not mean that a degree of intelligence is not beneficial.

 

Feel free to ask for help if any of those words are too long for you.

 

I don't need your help thankyou, i bet your wife is board shitless though:biggrin:

[Joe Newton]

I don't need your help thankyou, i bet your wife is board shitless though:biggrin:

 

 

You clearly do. Let's leave family out of it, tough guy.