Britain Hating Ideology

[DanClimbsTrees]

Your parents are profiting from private property yet you praise Corbyn, a self proclaimed Marxist. You don't see the irony?

 

Corbyn has said he'd implement a right to buy policy for private tenants. How do your parents feel about that idea? Being forced to sell their rented property to a tenant?

 

By the way I don't agree with Osborne's tax credit cuts for working families, it's a stupid move.

 

 

 

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Fair comment, Scotspine. I don't know the answer, if I was in the situation of the tenants I'd be stuck too. Both work full time, minimum wage jobs with a kid and they're £1,000 worse off because the government wants to save £4bn and Tory mantra dictates that you should take from the poor because they've the least to lose.

 

It's easy to say (I realize you agree with me on this) 'well, you shouldn't rely on tax credits' but they only exist because it's legal for employers to pay a person working full time hours less than the cost of living.

 

I don't agree with right-to-buy in any case, it's a lunacy which provides some people with massive windfalls of cash and leaves others stuck renting forever; whist at the same time dramatically reducing the social housing available which is more in demand than ever. One social house sold is one less social house forever.

 

I would agree that there need to be more regulation in the private rental sector. A minority of landlords are real crapbags providing houses unfit for habitation and withholding deposits (especially in student lets).

[Two Acres]

Your parents are profiting from private property yet you praise Corbyn, a self proclaimed Marxist. You don't see the irony?

 

Corbyn has said he'd implement a right to buy policy for private tenants. How do your parents feel about that idea? Being forced to sell their rented property to a tenant?

 

By the way I don't agree with Osborne's tax credit cuts for working families, it's a stupid move.

 

 

 

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Marxism didn't cause our economic problems, that would be neoliberalism.

[GreenGui]

Marxism didn't cause our economic problems, that would be neoliberalism.

 

He is also quoted selectively, usually, in my experience, by people that have never read his complete works. Selected sound bytes and quotes tend to circle round rather like sound in an echo chamber...

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

Fair comment, Scotspine. I don't know the answer, if I was in the situation of the tenants I'd be stuck too. Both work full time, minimum wage jobs with a kid and they're £1,000 worse off because the government wants to save £4bn and Tory mantra dictates that you should take from the poor because they've the least to lose.

 

 

 

It's easy to say (I realize you agree with me on this) 'well, you shouldn't rely on tax credits' but they only exist because it's legal for employers to pay a person working full time hours less than the cost of living.

 

 

 

I don't agree with right-to-buy in any case, it's a lunacy which provides some people with massive windfalls of cash and leaves others stuck renting forever; whist at the same time dramatically reducing the social housing available which is more in demand than ever. One social house sold is one less social house forever.

 

 

 

I would agree that there need to be more regulation in the private rental sector. A minority of landlords are real crapbags providing houses unfit for habitation and withholding deposits (especially in student lets).

 

 

Dan, is the problem rooted in Tory preference for Laissez-faire, market forces dictating market values or is it a case of private land lords charging in excess of that which can be sustained by an unencumbered market? (the "encumberment" in this case is state subsidy inflated rent)

 

Rents are high BECAUSE tax payers have to subsidise them. Take away the subsidy and market forces will take effect.

 

The problem is the greed of the landlords. But like good socialists, they'll take as long as the state gives.

[scotspine1]

Fair comment, Scotspine. I don't know the answer, if I was in the situation of the tenants I'd be stuck too. Both work full time, minimum wage jobs with a kid and they're £1,000 worse off

 

Maybe your parents should reduce the rent to offset the cut in tax credits

 

Two Acres and GreenGui..... couple of Marxist landowners thriving via neoliberalism

 

Nice post Kevin.

[Richard 1234]

Dan, is the problem rooted in Tory preference for Laissez-faire, market forces dictating market values or is it a case of private land lords charging in excess of that which can be sustained by an unencumbered market? (the "encumberment" in this case is state subsidy inflated rent)

 

Rents are high BECAUSE tax payers have to subsidise them. Take away the subsidy and market forces will take effect.

 

The problem is the greed of the landlords. But like good socialists, they'll take as long as the state gives.

 

 

Do business people always aim to be the cheapest quote?

I know I don't.

I charge the going rate just like landlords do.

 

Not that I agree with the high property prices on all housing be it owned or rented. I worry for my kids chances of buying a house.

I would like to move somewhere bigger but can't afford it.

Surely the only cure for expensive housing is to flood the market with extra housing? But it won't happen due to planning laws and the fact that builders want to keep prices high?

Just my thoughts

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

Richard, you're right of course. The price is set at what the market will tolerate. That's business.

 

Except that, in the case of rent, this is not true because successive governments have buggered it up and allowed private rent to sky rocket by consistently topping up beyond what the market (individuals) can afford.

 

Stop topping it up and the market will settle back to what can be afforded.

[GreenGui]

Maybe your parents should reduce the rent to offset the cut in tax credits

 

Two Acres and GreenGui..... couple of Marxist landowners thriving via neoliberalism

 

Nice post Kevin.

 

Voila. Thanks for proving the my point.

 

I got called a 'raving liberal' by Mr Johnsonmbe above in another post

 

Can you not see that you are simply using names and terms as ridicule without really bothering to understand the point being made. Not really any different to the school play ground:biggrin:

[Richard 1234]

Richard, you're right of course. The price is set at what the market will tolerate. That's business.

 

Except that, in the case of rent, this is not true because successive governments have buggered it up and allowed private rent to sky rocket by consistently topping up beyond what the market (individuals) can afford.

 

Stop topping it up and the market will settle back to what can be afforded.

 

 

That's the difficulty though isn't it. Letting the market stabilise itself. What happens during the first year /2 years after the state "subsidy" is taken away?

[Two Acres]

Dan, is the problem rooted in Tory preference for Laissez-faire, market forces dictating market values or is it a case of private land lords charging in excess of that which can be sustained by an unencumbered market? (the "encumberment" in this case is state subsidy inflated rent)

 

Rents are high BECAUSE tax payers have to subsidise them. Take away the subsidy and market forces will take effect.

 

The problem is the greed of the landlords. But like good socialists, they'll take as long as the state gives.

 

Its the Tory and Republican preference for Liberal economic policies thats caused the problems. Thats the banks were nationalised and thats why the Tory government is printing money.