anyone ever write a rebuttal to kiln drying

[skyhuck]

Today people buy wasted lettuce, the idea that you could convinces these people to dry their own firewood is ridiculous.

[Big J]

Today people buy wasted lettuce, the idea that you could convinces these people to dry their own firewood is ridiculous.

 

It's not like it takes any effort. You just have your store divided so that you can have a rotation. You have fresh firewood delivered and put it in the section for next year. You then to proceed to use last year's timber for burning this year. Not complicated.

 

Most firewood customers are idiots though, so I see your point.

[Stubby]

It's not like it takes any effort. You just have your store divided so that you can have a rotation. You have fresh firewood delivered and put it in the section for next year. You then to proceed to use last year's timber for burning this year. Not complicated.

 

Most firewood customers are idiots though, so I see your point.

 

Yep . they pay the extra for kiln dried . "Stack it up down the side f the garage will you " later on that day it pisses down .

[arboriculturist]

It's not like it takes any effort. You just have your store divided so that you can have a rotation. You have fresh firewood delivered and put it in the section for next year. You then to proceed to use last year's timber for burning this year. Not complicated.

 

Most firewood customers are idiots though, so I see your point.

 

I am relieved someone finally someone said that :001_smile:

[se7enthdevil]

It's not like it takes any effort. You just have your store divided so that you can have a rotation. You have fresh firewood delivered and put it in the section for next year. You then to proceed to use last year's timber for burning this year. Not complicated.

 

Most firewood customers are idiots though, so I see your point.

 

i make all my own firewood and leave it to dry for at least 12 months in the sun and wind. i've never actually taken a moisture meter to it so i might try it this year.

 

lots of my wood is offcuts from my skittles business which are kiln dried and i've seen no difference between that and air dried logs.

 

i bring in logs and put them in front of the fire anyway so they get a bit of a roasting/drying before they go in the stove anyway and if i get the occasional bit that is obviously wet i leave it there a few nights before it goes in.

 

drying wood with a source of heat or wind that is already there is fine, kilning them or using electricity sounds daft to me.

[arboriculturist]

i make all my own firewood and leave it to dry for at least 12 months in the sun and wind. i've never actually taken a moisture meter to it so i might try it this year.

 

lots of my wood is offcuts from my skittles business which are kiln dried and i've seen no difference between that and air dried logs.

 

i bring in logs and put them in front of the fire anyway so they get a bit of a roasting/drying before they go in the stove anyway and if i get the occasional bit that is obviously wet i leave it there a few nights before it goes in.

 

drying wood with a source of heat or wind that is already there is fine, kilning them or using electricity sounds daft to me.

 

The main reasons for drying firewood by people who sell quantity is they cannot afford to buy 250 m3 of timber x months ahead of the date of sale and store / handle it.

 

If you are earning income via RHI payments to dry the Firewood it makes business sense.

 

Maybe not so daft Steve if you consider these 2 factors.

[gensetsteve]

I find poly tunnels are great for drying timber. I can understand kiln drying with waste wood and sawdust. It's a shame the boilers can't be certified to 600 deg so they can burn the mountain of waste treated wood you see in the recycling centres.

I think some customers sometimes just don't realise the logs will season at their property, it's like some mystical art form, if they are paying all that money they should be ready to burn. We live in an instant society so the public are no longer patient. You don't make wine or jam now you just buy two get one free.

[R5log]

For those not recieving Government funding in the form of RHI payments to dry their firewood, it may tempting for some to draw to the attention of the public that the vast majority of kiln dried firewood sold in the UK is imported from abroad or funded by the taxpayer.

 

 

 

It is never wise to name names though - that's just un-professional.

 

 

I take it you don't receive RHI?

[arboriculturist]

I take it you don't receive RHI?

 

No, I don't recieve RHI, but we can all understand why the financial incentives encouraged many to sign up when the Tariff level was at 8.8p / KwH

[Duffryn]

There is absolutely no difference between an air dried 20% m/c log and a Kiln dried 20% log.

 

I think the issue is that in the eyes of the ignorant consumer there is a big difference because they are not comparing like with like.

 

So many ""air dried seasoned logs" sold are actually green, that when the consumer tries kiln dried they notice a big difference and then swear by it.

 

Why are so many logs sold green ? I guess it because it takes a lot of space, cash and time to dry logs by air as so the temptation is obvious. A kiln solves these issues.

 

The real issue here is surely not kiln drying or no kiln drying it is how to stop people being conned by green logs. I don't have the answer for this....