defender 90 and triple axle 14ft ifor williams?

[mowingjamie]

Hi, still looking for the best option to swap my 2007 navara king cab for as i need more room for tools etc now. Ideally i need something like a renault traffic swb for everyday use and very light towing and thinking about a defender 90 with a 14ft ifor willams triple axle caged flabed hooked up all the time for moving bigger kit about. How stable would the 90 be with a tripple axle 14ft? need to move about 2 ton around and like the 90 for the swb setup. Most of the time it would be for just shifting ride on mowers about but every so often would need it to tow the 2/2.5ton on the trailer. A little worried about it snaking at higher speeds, the navara isnt great with no weight over the rear axles and a very poor drive train so hopefully the 90 would be a massive improvement?

[scraggs]

It's a very nice stable setup.

I have some friends who run 2 of that exact setup without any problems.

[aspenarb]

The closer the towball can get to the rear axle the better, I cant think of any other 4x4 that has as little overhang as the 90. Good choice.

 

Bob

[mendiplogs]

Hi, still looking for the best option to swap my 2007 navara king cab for as i need more room for tools etc now. Ideally i need something like a renault traffic swb for everyday use and very light towing and thinking about a defender 90 with a 14ft ifor willams triple axle caged flabed hooked up all the time for moving bigger kit about. How stable would the 90 be with a tripple axle 14ft? need to move about 2 ton around and like the 90 for the swb setup. Most of the time it would be for just shifting ride on mowers about but every so often would need it to tow the 2/2.5ton on the trailer. A little worried about it snaking at higher speeds, the navara isnt great with no weight over the rear axles and a very poor drive train so hopefully the 90 would be a massive improvement?

 

Hi Jamie on triple axel trailer on the 90 is less likely to snake mate and also less likely to overload the nose load of the trailer too with a triple axel I'm told that the best are Brian James as they limit scarf because they can keep the axles closer together because they run on there own axle units not leaf spings thanks Jon

[scraggs]

The closer the towball can get to the rear axle the better, I cant think of any other 4x4 that has as little overhang as the 90. Good choice.

 

Bob

 

Ibex's have the axle as far back as it can go and apparently the swb ibex is a dream to tow with.

It's the reason I didn't want any overhang on my 130, less rear overhang does make a huge difference.

[Matthew Storrs]

I used to tow that sort of weight with a Navarra and i found that it was very sensitive to bad loading (the main reason why a trailer will really snake). However i tow 3.5 ton almost daily with a 110 now and don't think i have ever had a snake. I guess the 90 would be better still- but bear in mind the 90 is less weight and has a smaller pickup bed- so less tractive weight if you live in a hilly area? Personally i like to put weight in the towing vehicle where possible ie digger buckets/attachments and have just the machine on its own on the trailer- adds to a safer setup really.

 

Another thought do you need a 14ft trailer? a 10ft trailer is lighter and harder to load badly and with caged sides you probably wouldn't fill it with logs (or whatever) before it was overloaded anyway....

[mendiplogs]

I used to tow that sort of weight with a Navarra and i found that it was very sensitive to bad loading (the main reason why a trailer will really snake). However i tow 3.5 ton almost daily with a 110 now and don't think i have ever had a snake. I guess the 90 would be better still- but bear in mind the 90 is less weight and has a smaller pickup bed- so less tractive weight if you live in a hilly area? Personally i like to put weight in the towing vehicle where possible ie digger buckets/attachments and have just the machine on its own on the trailer- adds to a safer setup really.

 

Another thought do you need a 14ft trailer? a 10ft trailer is lighter and harder to load badly and with caged sides you probably wouldn't fill it with logs (or whatever) before it was overloaded anyway....

Hi Matthew your right there about badly loaded trailer mainly to high of nose load or going to fast 🐩🐩🐩dogs tail wagging it's a nightmare when it happens there was a new land go off the road other day with a large Ifor Williams on back on the Mendips the chaps were ok thanks Jon

[harrythecat178]

We would never have another triaxle trailer, harder to manoveure, harder to pull so less MPG, more to buy and less legal carrying capacity. We tow an 18 foot Ifor twin axle with a MWB sprinter 316CDI, 3.5 ton van and a 3.5ton towing capacity so 7 ton GTM, no problems at all. One of those and all valuables are locked up inside, loads of panel space for a good sign writing job if so desired, will carry a large ride in it. If you need 4wd then that version is available

Edited October 16, 2015 by harrythecat178

[gensetsteve]

I had a 10 ft 3500kg trailer in the past and found it more difficult to load as you don't have room on the bed to move about. Get it wrong and the ride can be very unforgiving. I never found pick ups good for towing the leaf springs seem hard then the chassis does all the work. The Landrover stuff is good due to heavy chassis and coil springs also the low box without diff lock is good for traile work on hills.

[walkerboys]

I remapped mine and it will pull anything I hand a 4 ton digger on this trailer and never had a problem i no it shouldn't of been on the road but it had to be done my mates diff exploded so had to rescue him but on my 12ft ifor tipper when it's loaded rite up proberly 4 ton plus if you go over 50mph it will get a snake on and try and throw you off the road but it's our own fault for overloading