New Stove - Morso Squirrel or what?

[aesmith]

Hi,

 

We have a Morso 1410 squirrel in one room, and an old stove of unknown make and poor condition in the other room. I'm going to fit a liner in that second room, and rework the register in the fireplace etc. That all needs sorting out. We were wondering whether to replace the stove at the same time. The obvious choice would be another Morso 1410, but I've been told that current ones aren't made to the same standard.

 

Any thoughts either on current Morso quality, or on alternatives of the same sort of size? A wider stove would be OK in the opening, but we don't need more heat output (room is around 16' x 14', 8' ceiling). It would need a glass door.

 

Thanks, Tony S

[the village idiot]

How about a second hand squirrel?

[cornish wood burner]

Just bought a villager puffin( 4 kw) for a small room. No idea on quality but similar size to your squirrel.

[aesmith]

I'd grab a secondhand Squirrel in a flash.

[john p]

Be a shame if the quality s dropped, we've got a Morso squirrel and its te dogs bollox

[htb]

Anyone got second hand backplate for a squirrel. Sorry for derail

[Alycidon]

Hi,

 

The obvious choice would be another Morso 1410, but I've been told that current ones aren't made to the same standard.

 

Any thoughts either on current Morso quality, or on alternatives of the same sort of size? A wider stove would be OK in the opening, but we don't need more heat output (room is around 16' x 14', 8' ceiling). It would need a glass door.

 

Thanks, Tony S

 

 

Hi

 

I am a Morso Center of Excellence, so should be able to advise.

 

Morso make their stoves in the same place and to the same high standards as they always have done. There is no difference quality wise between a Squirrell made today and one made 50 years ago. (yes they have been around that long). In seven years selling several hundred Morso stoves the next problem will be the first one.

 

So your room, about 30 cubic meters in volume, assume the insulation in the property is average and the rooms glass area is average and you have a single 700mm wide entry door then you will want 2kw of heat output to give you a 21 Dec C temperature rise in the room if its 1 deg C outside with the stove as the sole source of heat.

 

If you are within a smoke control area then you will need a Defra approved stove if you wish to burn wood.

 

1410 in its day was cutting edge in design but that was a very long time ago and things have moved on. I would suggest that a 4kw stove would be more than sufficient so a Squirrel 1416 would be more than adequate, this is one of the latest generation of Squirrels and has a number of major improvements over 1410. For a more contempory look at 4kw then look at the Morso S11-42, this is technically one of the worlds most advanced 4kw stoves, not cheap though but a 40 year plus service life if you treat it well.

 

If you are on a budget and are not in a SC area then look at the new Morso Swift, this is a Squirrel in all but name (parts are the same) but I am selling as ( as are others) at just under £600. It has a far larger glass area than the 1410.

 

PM me if you want more info or advice on other brands. There are several 'British' brands that have moved production overseas and quality has suffered badly.

 

A

[Alycidon]

Anyone got second hand backplate for a squirrel. Sorry for derail

 

Got a new Morso one.

 

A

[Alycidon]

Just bought a villager puffin( 4 kw) for a small room. No idea on quality but similar size to your squirrel.

 

Quality is good, made in Devon, lifetime casing warranty, technically not as advanced as Morso but its not at Morso prices. I also act for Villager !!.

 

A

[htb]

Got a new Morso one.

 

A

 

How much for a new one as mine starting to crack from the top down to the flue outlet